There is no way to get enough mitigation to not kill youself vs reflect, unless you use like, half gear with elite reduction.
Normally, with 3ls weapon, fight vs siegebreaker looks like - apply horrify with 100% armor, dps during that, after cast spirit walk, and when there is downtime of horrify or spirit walk, stop dps.
With 6ls you can dps all the time.
Overall for farming 3ls is fine, just need to be careful against reflect, time your buffs correctly, with 6ls you can not give a shit and attack about anything.

This post was edited by ae1337 on Apr 15 2013 05:24am

Yeah, Just bought a cheap Skorn and testing LS against reflect damage elites. very useful but now I have to find one that can compensate with the damage that I lose from my Offhand.

This post was edited by slinpy_hoe on Apr 15 2013 05:44am

Well, to match 1h setup, you need quality skorn, that isn't cheap unfortunately.

Yeah, hopefully I can sell my previous weapon and offhand to buy a better Skorn later.
At least even with the cheap Skorn I'm still above 100K damage.

There is a way to not kill yourself and still output dmg, just not as consistent dmg as you would be able to with a skorn.

During mp10 ubers I only needed to stop outputting dps for maybe a few seconds here or there with the extra armor/pys res gear.

Not sure on the exact amount of phys and armor I had.


This post was edited by ]GS[ Controller on Apr 15 2013 06:06am

Accordintg to calcs, without any elite reduction, you need like 8k armor, 900 phys res, to stop losing hp vs reflect. You can ofc have less and damage yourself slowly, which won't kill you. But still these values are pretty high. Without horrify, this armor is impossible, and if you drop to 4k armor, you gonna get some serious reflected damage in the face.
I remember playing with 4.5k armor and like 800 physical res, and it was giving me some serious trouble. Especially vs horde elites, or health link.

It does in terms of elites, that just came down to timing my spirits right, but when fully buffed not even horrify and my reflect pants save me so i have to aim at some trash for a few seconds in extreme cases.

For the most part the pickup rad constantly getting globes while leeching life is what really saves me most of the time, so it's a bit of globe luck too.

I'm going to ask this in a better way: can anyone simply link me to their b.net profile of their zombie bear WD so I know what to follow gear-wise and skill-wise. Thanks

what's the best weapon?

This post was edited by Koston on Apr 16 2013 01:19am

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Controller-1114/


Until you have a lot of mana mitigation gear, use something like a mace/spear or axe.

If you can get a 10 soj/12 off hand and some mana regen you should be able to run a slight bit more speed but dont go over 1.8, try to stay at 1.6-7.

this PTR bat change offends me -.-