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Nov 14 2012 10:39am
Quote (michaeliu19 @ 14 Nov 2012 17:25)
5.5% is okay but would recommend getting as close to 6 as possible b upgrading the slot and then u can turn on either tough as nails or superstition as your other passive.

Warcry is useless, dont need it. Use either rend or overpower as ur other skill. I like rend because I have a cold dmg SOJ which has rend reduction which makes it godly, for u, mite b better to use overpower.

upgrade to IK chest cus its BiS and ur jewelry needs wep dmg cause ur losing out on 20-30 dps right now ithout it.


Thanks a lot man. Should I change boots than aswell if I get a IK chest? or stick two 3 pieces? and rings to change next?
And how high should the wep dmg on jewelry at least be? And are these upgrades even possible without losing dmg or other stuff with my budget?^^
thanks for your effort and help...

And since I'm a noob. Why is IK chest so much better than mine besides the armor?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Maximus-2659/hero/536030

This post was edited by LightFrog on Nov 14 2012 11:03am
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Nov 14 2012 11:33am
Quote (michaeliu19 @ Nov 14 2012 10:27am)
Pop wrath, ull see it. Put EF in OH and get a high dps mace for ur mainhand


I see it now but usually 50/50 chance not every time?
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Nov 14 2012 12:23pm
Quote (Higher @ Nov 14 2012 07:33pm)
I see it now but usually 50/50 chance not every time?



https://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5208112782 --> ''More movespeed does not guarantee a 5th tornado spawn - it can spawn with 0% movespeed while failing to spawn on the 25% cap while also in wotb.''

NUMBER OF TORNADOES:
- 0% increased movement speed 5 tornadoes
- 12% increased movement speed 5 tornadoes
- 25% increased movement speed 5 tornadoes
Visual
first tornado at 0.9-1 second
seconds tornado at 1.4-1.5 sec
third tornado at 2 seconds
fourth tornado at 2.5 seconds
fifth tornado at 3 sec. 50/50 chance

Its always 50/50 chance for a 5th tornado, from 0ms to 25ms on items. He is uneducated and just raged at me for no apparent reason.

Players dont need to obsess on hitting exactly 24 (or 25, since its the cap technically) ms, but seeing as 24 is easily achieved by boots and either lacuni or inna, a lot of players are led to believe that (a) 24 is the cap and (b) you should have 24 exactly, which are both false.

24 ms does NOT have any effect on dps from tornados, and even if it spawned a 5th 100% of the time, it would make no difference since with TOC a barb has to mass spam BR and sprint anyway. 24 ms is used by barbs who can clear trash very fast and thus helps traverse terrain faster and thus makes runs faster. If a barb wanted to do mp10 only, he simply would have no need for 24ms.
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Nov 14 2012 01:28pm
Quote (LightFrog @ Nov 14 2012 06:39pm)


And since I'm a noob. Why is IK chest so much better than mine besides the armor?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Maximus-2659/hero/536030


60allres bonus with 2 pieces + high armor!
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Nov 14 2012 02:42pm
Quote (schianerhermann @ 14 Nov 2012 21:28)
60allres bonus with 2 pieces + high armor!


Well got the all res allready. Thats the point
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Nov 14 2012 02:55pm
Quote (LightFrog @ Nov 14 2012 10:42pm)
Well got the all res allready. Thats the point



If you got enough AR / armor, then the best BiS armor is tal rasha with 2xx str and vit. Unrivalled dps chest. Otherwise, ik chest is best of the best.
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Nov 14 2012 03:16pm
Quote (markilbaldacchino @ Nov 14 2012 11:29am)
I didnt flame, I just provided facts,

Im not raging, you clearly are.

The good barbs know that 25 ms still gives you the same chance of 5th tornado which is not 100%, its random, its all dictated by distance, not ms % on items.

''it does spawn a 5th tornado 100% of the time if u are in sprint and max movement speed'' ---> max ms from items is 25 not 24, this is how I know you dont know what you are on about.

You get 24ms on a barb for the movement speed bonus, not for tornado spawns. When you spam nados all the time, who cares if you make 4th or 5th if by the time you made the first one you just initiated another sequence?

The kind of tests im doing are the ones where I get my barb and press sprint, and use my eyes to gauge whats happening, what  other kind of tests are there? LOL

And people are supposed to be getting advice from you? What a tool

https://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5208112782 --> ''More movespeed does not guarantee a 5th tornado spawn - it can spawn with 0% movespeed while failing to spawn on the 25% cap while also in wotb.''

NUMBER OF TORNADOES:
- 0% increased movement speed 5 tornadoes
- 12% increased movement speed 5 tornadoes
- 25% increased movement speed 5 tornadoes
Visual
first tornado at 0.9-1 second
seconds tornado at 1.4-1.5 sec
third tornado at 2 seconds
fourth tornado at 2.5 seconds
fifth tornado at 3 sec. 50/50 chance



lol, you make it sound like you're the only barbarian player out there and everyone is thirsting for your approval. :rofl:


Another nerd rager on this thread. If u dont need advice, then go troll some other thread. Never said i was the fina approver, just trying to help as many people as I can so cant really spend the time reading through another thread to help 1 of many. If you are so knowledgeabe, go start your own advice thread instead of just being a mindless troll on this one. Your so right, clearly dont no what im talking about which is why i get pages of requests and pms a day. Wonder how many ask you for your 2 cents, oh thats right, no one. Thats why you are on this thread throwing ur 2 cents in wherever you can acting like some one actualy gives a shit what you think. Last response to this pathetic troll who is flaming someone whose helping others. Sad times.
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Nov 14 2012 03:20pm
Quote (michaeliu19 @ Nov 14 2012 11:16pm)
Another nerd rager on this thread. If u dont need advice, then go troll some other thread. Never said i was the fina approver, just trying to help as many people as I can so cant really spend the time reading through another thread to help 1 of many. If you are so knowledgeabe, go start your own advice thread instead of just being a mindless troll on this one. Your so right, clearly dont no what im talking about which is why i get pages of requests and pms a day. Wonder how many ask you for your 2 cents, oh thats right, no one. Thats why you are on this thread throwing ur 2 cents in wherever you can acting like some one actualy gives a shit what you think. Last response to this pathetic troll who is flaming someone whose helping others. Sad times.


I know its hard to swallow the fact you are giving the wrong advice, and I made you look ridiculous, but there is no need to make it personal post after post. I never said anything about you personally, while you keep throwing insults at me non stop. All I stopped in to say was that movement speed % has no effect on number of tornados spawned, which is the truth. I never trolled or flamed. You realised you were wrong, and instead of acknowledging the wisdom I imparted on you, you just raged back at me, calling me nerd, troll, trash etc. At least before you flat out call me wrong, bother to look it up and verify. Btw I am very active on this forum in case you didnt know, and I get tons of pms every day, and I have helped a lot of people in the last few months.

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 14 2012 03:21pm
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Nov 14 2012 03:22pm
Quote (markilbaldacchino @ Nov 14 2012 05:20pm)
I know its hard to swallow the fact you are giving the wrong advice, and I made you look ridiculous, but there is no need to make it personal post after post. I never said anything about you personally, while you keep throwing insults at me non stop. All I stopped in to say was that movement speed % has no effect on number of tornados spawned, which is the truth. I never trolled or flamed. At least before you flat out call me wrong, bother to look it up and verify. Btw I am very active on this forum in case you didnt know, and I get tons of pms every day just to let you know, and I have helped a lot of people in the last few months.


Yet ur still trolling this thread. Congrats. Everyone, please bow down to the all mighty know it all barb. Spends all day stalking my thread and just trolls. U didnt say anything personally? You made comment cause I siad i didnt want to follow some random dudes thread cause most people have the decency to just post profiles here. No offense, if your such a high and might barb knowledge well, might want to help the people that need ur help which is what I am trying to do here instead of just trolling all day. Cheers man, get a life, seriously.
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Nov 14 2012 03:25pm
Quote (michaeliu19 @ Nov 14 2012 11:22pm)
Yet ur still trolling this thread. Congrats. Everyone, please bow down to the all mighty know it all barb. Spends all day stalking my thread and just trolls. U didnt say anything personally? You made  comment cause I siad i didnt want to follow some random dudes thread cause most people have the decency to just post profiles here. No offense, if your such a high and might barb knowledge well, might want to help the people that need ur help which is what I am trying to do here instead of just trolling all day. Cheers man, get a life, seriously.


I do help ppl already, I told you this. I was actually helping when I corrected your error, my intention was never to troll.

And I never asked anyone to bow down to me LOL, stop 180ing things, why is it so hard to just accept you made a mistake?

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 14 2012 03:26pm
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