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May 22 2013 12:01pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ May 22 2013 06:27pm)
Ah, that makes sense. Got it. I'll keep my bp at 2.74 and upgrade other slots. I've tried your build with meteor. It was fun but I like teleport wormhole so much that I think I'm gonna stick with it.

What do you think about my BT pants? My friend gave it to me for free. Do you think it's alright to drop either all res or armor for 2 sockets or double int/vital roll?

Thanks mang


Hello. I feel like the best BT pants are 280+vit / 800armor. You're HP is allready kinda low so i would upgrade that. Theres nothing better then just laughing at molten explosion @ mp10.

Edit: I agree with Mad1Lee about the BadassWarrior's wizard. Your gear is badly assembled.

This post was edited by Peey on May 22 2013 12:03pm
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Nice stuff for the budget man. :)

Here is his profile on d3rawr. I plugged in more numbers for gems in the armors.

The next bp after 2.73 is 3, and he's at 3. So, that's pretty good.

But his ehp is very low. He shouldn't use glass cannon. He should just use something else and use Shard rune on diamond skin.

What mp you guys are going to play?

http://www.d3rawr.com/d-F5DDC


haha, thanks, I just did the same thing on that website - first time I've used it.

I was thinking to have him go all life on the sockets for now because it looked a bit low, so until he gets some more life from gear, that might be a safe approach. Yeah, I think Glass Cannon was just a quick selection to test it out, and Blur might make more sense. You think he can survive running Diamond Shard, and losing the extra damage absorb from Crystal Shell?

We had been playing MP3-5 with our Barb's, but we'll just have to see how his Wizard survives. I've got maybe 200 mil to spend on my Barb for some serious upgrades, so not sure if we'll really be comparable in gear anymore, but we'll continue to upgrade him as well. I think some playing time will help us feel out what the weaknesses are and what the next upgrades need to be.

What's the latest on using auto-hotkey? Anyone ever been banned for that?
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May 22 2013 12:03pm
[QUOTE=Mad1Lee,May 22 2013 07:54pm][QUOTE=BadassWarrior,May 22 2013 09:30pm][QUOTE=Mad1Lee,May 22 2013 06:53pm]Pretty badly assembled wizard. Super unbalanced. I doubt you can play it higher than mp8 without dying a lot pretty much to anything. 3k armor, 628 all res, 579 loh and 17 apoc? That's look horrible. And use Glass Cannon with those stats? And no Shocking Armor? Dude, paper dps might stroke your e-peen a bit, but in reality you are less effective than 180k dps sns wiz with proper ehp.




im 777-821@ buffed 4.2k armor. 579 loh i enough and 17 apoc i enough. im doing JUST fine at mp10 soloing. and they'r dying fast.[/QUOTE]

so you are using energy armor? That means you are losing 30-40% of your effective dps. 579 LOH at this mitigation? That means plagued/reflect will destroy you. 17 apoc? That means a lot of awkard wand attacks.[/QUOTE]

teach me how to be a pro then :o
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May 22 2013 12:11pm
[QUOTE=BadassWarrior,May 22 2013 07:03pm][QUOTE=Mad1Lee,May 22 2013 07:54pm][QUOTE=BadassWarrior,May 22 2013 09:30pm][QUOTE=Mad1Lee,May 22 2013 06:53pm]Pretty badly assembled wizard. Super unbalanced. I doubt you can play it higher than mp8 without dying a lot pretty much to anything. 3k armor, 628 all res, 579 loh and 17 apoc? That's look horrible. And use Glass Cannon with those stats? And no Shocking Armor? Dude, paper dps might stroke your e-peen a bit, but in reality you are less effective than 180k dps sns wiz with proper ehp.




im 777-821@ buffed 4.2k armor. 579 loh i enough and 17 apoc i enough. im doing JUST fine at mp10 soloing. and they'r dying fast.[/QUOTE]

so you are using energy armor? That means you are losing 30-40% of your effective dps. 579 LOH at this mitigation? That means plagued/reflect will destroy you. 17 apoc? That means a lot of awkard wand attacks.[/QUOTE]

teach me how to be a pro then :o[/QUOTE]

You need to double your EHP.
BT pants with 280vita / 800+ armor / 450loh
Witching hour with @ress / armor
Ice clibers with armor
Ring with @ress / ias / cc
Tal Chest with Allress / armor
Chants Force 10 apoc

Here's just a list of a few things i would swap around.
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May 22 2013 12:19pm
[QUOTE=Peey,May 22 2013 08:11pm][QUOTE=BadassWarrior,May 22 2013 07:03pm][QUOTE=Mad1Lee,May 22 2013 07:54pm][QUOTE=BadassWarrior,May 22 2013 09:30pm][QUOTE=Mad1Lee,May 22 2013 06:53pm]Pretty badly assembled wizard. Super unbalanced. I doubt you can play it higher than mp8 without dying a lot pretty much to anything. 3k armor, 628 all res, 579 loh and 17 apoc? That's look horrible. And use Glass Cannon with those stats? And no Shocking Armor? Dude, paper dps might stroke your e-peen a bit, but in reality you are less effective than 180k dps sns wiz with proper ehp.




im 777-821@ buffed 4.2k armor. 579 loh i enough and 17 apoc i enough. im doing JUST fine at mp10 soloing. and they'r dying fast.[/QUOTE]

so you are using energy armor? That means you are losing 30-40% of your effective dps. 579 LOH at this mitigation? That means plagued/reflect will destroy you. 17 apoc? That means a lot of awkard wand attacks.[/QUOTE]

teach me how to be a pro then :o[/QUOTE]

You need to double your EHP.
BT pants with 280vita / 800+ armor / 450loh
Witching hour with @ress / armor
Ice clibers with armor
Ring with @ress / ias / cc
Tal Chest with Allress / armor
Chants Force 10 apoc

Here's just a list of a few things i would swap around.[/QUOTE]


just swapped my bt pant wiv 270 vit for my current ones. already got TWH with nice allres. chant force with 10 apoc would be -8+k dps

cba Building a 150k balanced wiz for 2.5b cause im doing just fine now. just tested the shocking armor. Works very well
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May 22 2013 12:19pm
[QUOTE=Peey,May 22 2013 10:11pm][QUOTE=BadassWarrior,May 22 2013 07:03pm][QUOTE=Mad1Lee,May 22 2013 07:54pm][QUOTE=BadassWarrior,May 22 2013 09:30pm][QUOTE=Mad1Lee,May 22 2013 06:53pm]Pretty badly assembled wizard. Super unbalanced. I doubt you can play it higher than mp8 without dying a lot pretty much to anything. 3k armor, 628 all res, 579 loh and 17 apoc? That's look horrible. And use Glass Cannon with those stats? And no Shocking Armor? Dude, paper dps might stroke your e-peen a bit, but in reality you are less effective than 180k dps sns wiz with proper ehp.




im 777-821@ buffed 4.2k armor. 579 loh i enough and 17 apoc i enough. im doing JUST fine at mp10 soloing. and they'r dying fast.[/QUOTE]

so you are using energy armor? That means you are losing 30-40% of your effective dps. 579 LOH at this mitigation? That means plagued/reflect will destroy you. 17 apoc? That means a lot of awkard wand attacks.[/QUOTE]

teach me how to be a pro then :o[/QUOTE]

You need to double your EHP.
BT pants with 280vita / 800+ armor / 450loh
Witching hour with @ress / armor
Ice clibers with armor
Ring with @ress / ias / cc
Tal Chest with Allress / armor
Chants Force 10 apoc

Here's just a list of a few things i would swap around.[/QUOTE]

BT pants with vita and armor is a good budget option, yes. If you got enough vita however, it's better to go for socketed/ar version or socketed/armor version. Ice Climbers is also a budget version, unless you got really godly rare rings and godly climbers to go with them.

[QUOTE=BadassWarrior,May 22 2013 10:03pm]
teach me how to be a pro then :o[/QUOTE]

It's not that hard, just try to keep your mitigation/effective dps balanced. You need at least 800loh, 4k armor, 750 all res unbuffed at 2,74 aps ~50 cc. Try to aim at 900 loh, 4,5-5k armor, 850 @ and 2,74 (3,001 is good though) and 55cc. And yes, 17 apoc is bad, you should know that everytime you do a wand attack you are not doing any damage or freezing so despite what dps number shows you might be killing some mobs slower than you should.
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May 22 2013 06:25pm
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Hellocopter-1952/hero/29867117

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/hellocopter-1952/snowman/29867117

here's me, i just threw this together a few days ago, most of my pieces are from other chars

im currently bidding on an all res, cc, asi, chd, loh ring and an int vit lacuni

my will i bought for 35m and force i bought for 2b, not sure if that was a good idea, lol

i made the +3.01 bp with 3.09 aps, but i lose a lot of potential stats by having that, is it worth it? cuz im thinkin if i go down to 2.74 and buy bt pants i can also search for an ammy without loh, which can increase my dps and ehp
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May 22 2013 06:46pm
Oh great Mad,

Can you please give me a gear check and recommend some upgrades? I have ~500m to spend.

http://d3up.com/b/624400

I'm getting the feeling that my upgrades are going to be small and costly. My resists are low, but I can't relaly figure out a cost efficient way to raise them. I have a 10ASPD Chant Will that I switch to hit the 2.74 BP but I lose a ton of damage missing the socket. The gloves I'm trying to craft better ones as well.
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May 22 2013 06:52pm
Quote (Jaytron @ May 22 2013 05:46pm)
Oh great Mad,

Can you please give me a gear check and recommend some upgrades? I have ~500m to spend.

http://d3up.com/b/624400

I'm getting the feeling that my upgrades are going to be small and costly. My resists are low, but I can't relaly figure out a cost efficient way to raise them. I have a 10ASPD Chant Will that I switch to hit the 2.74 BP but I lose a ton of damage missing the socket. The gloves I'm trying to craft better ones as well.


Man, you need exactly 13% more attack speed to hit the breakpoint. Get it up there.

Tal's chest/Ammy.

Mad will get Mad if you care about sheet dmg.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on May 22 2013 06:53pm
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May 22 2013 07:04pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ May 22 2013 04:52pm)
Man, you need exactly 13% more attack speed to hit the breakpoint. Get it up there.

Tal's chest/Ammy.

Mad will get Mad if you care about sheet dmg.


http://d3up.com/b/624400/jaytronzero

How's that, with the IAS Will?

What should I be looking for with tal chest/ammy at my budget? I feel like I'll drop a ton of resists/vit if I switch.

I have tossed the notion of sheet damage from my vocabulary. In that case, it's better to be at the 2.74 BP with less sheet damage correct?

This post was edited by Jaytron on May 22 2013 07:08pm
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