if you want to use soj / zuni boots, it makes a difference (although I thought this was fixed)

otherwise no (ofc, black dmg weapons usually get higher dps than ele ones since the dmg is calculated differently, but what i mean is 900 dps ele axe and 900 dps black axe - and no soj - no difference at all - you would choose the one with better stats then)

the reason the barbs with lots of expensive gear have black dmg mainhands is because these get up to 1300 dps whilst ele ones can go up to 1000dps only, cuz of the way the dmg is calculated differently. But for ppl on a budget, having to choose between ele and black with same dps makes no difference most of the time, since they probably wouldnt use soj either, and only seen 1 or 2 barbs with zuni boots.

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 14 2012 08:22am

Unforunately, you are quite a bit aways from being able to carry mp7 efficiently. I dont even carry on mp7 cause it just isnt efficient for farming, Would strongly recommend moving to carrying on mp4 for your gear, evne though u lose a bit of mf, the efficiency gain from being able to melt pcks and do more runs will more than overtake doing mp7. Trust me its not worth it, ive tested on every single mp carry/taxi/farming w/e it is. And mp4-5 is the best for carrying. As for gear, would recommend you pick up an innas pants with str/vit roll. ASI is crucial for 2h barbs. Also, you are very low on str so try to stack more str on gear, IK chest is favorable for this.



I am talking about before wrath. The 24% ms is a must, helps you have a consistent 5th tornado which 12% does not give. Furthermore, the speed and efficiency with which you farm on 24% is VERY noticeable. I used to do 12% ms, after moving to 24% ms a couple months ago, have never looked back.

100m, get a new amulet. Plenty of decent ammys with like 8%+ crit and like 50+ crit dmg with avg dmg and str on AH right now for like 50m or less. Will give u insane dps boost. Alternatively, could replace CHD with ASI for faster nado ticks. Noticd u dont have any ASI gear on ur barb which is a problem.



Cant even see you gear. But i do full gearing services so if u looking to make a big transition, can let me know or look at my build-a-barb servics for past jobs/vouches.



I myself farm on mp5 when doing alk runs and do mp5 when I am offering my a3 full carry services cause t is the most efficient to farm by far. 2h barbs is tricky but i would still suggest u run on mp4. Get some ASI gear to help with fury problems and u shud b fine. If u find it difficult, go to mp5. But the best mp to farm is where u can basicaly kill white packs within 1 ww nado cycle which is wht I can do.



Depends on all your other stuff as well but u want around 60%+ crit chance after all ur buffs. U dont need to keep it up for whole run, just need to keep it up for long enuf to recast.





pretty much need a bunch of upgrades if u wanna hit 200k. I do full gearing services dependong on ur budget, may be able to help.



for 250m, I can basically turn ur char around into something that isnt just a glass cannon with good EHP and still gaining dmg. I dont even no how your farming wel with ur current setup because from what I see, your EHP is awful. Your weps have to go, your andys has to go its terrible and is just a stat sheet item esp since its 22% fire dmg which pretty much somes up 60% of a3 mobs. If ur interested, i can full gear your barb in my build-a-barb service. Vouches and stuff are in my past threads.





Get new jewelry or save up and get a decent Ik chest.


Amulet needs upgrades. Save up 100m, and get a nice one with high wep dmg (i.e. 30-50 dmg), 8.5% crit+, 80+ crit dmg, and 100+ str. All res is a bonus. I just picked one up last night for 90 for a client of mine so its definitely attainable. Also got another one with around 50% crit dmg for like 30-40m so if u want to, can do that upgrade now.

This is absolute bullshit, its the same chance with 0 and 25ms, you get 24 ms to make runs faster yes, but it doesnt spawn a 5th tornado 100% of the time. even if it did, it doesnt matter since you spam the tornado button when infight.

Even with speed shrine, i was testing for fun, i ve sometimes gotten 4 nados with 1 sprint.

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 14 2012 08:57am

Actually it isnt lol, it does spawn a 5th tornado 100% of the time if u are in sprint and max movement speed which any barb who can manage clicking a button at proper intervals always is. COngrats on showing that ur a nerd rager. Dont no what kind of "tests" your running or what kind shitty barb ur playing with but this is an advice thread. If u gonna flame, go nerd rage in another thread. Thanks Dont have time to deal with trash such as yourself.

Sorry bro, but I never see a 5th and I have 24% ms.

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/rndm-1180/Olympian/28161197

Been meaning to ask someone (politely for that matter) about it because it apparently is supposed to happen all the time, but I haven't seen it yet.
My test is simply running with sprint and counting the visible nados, not sure if one is inivis or something, but I have never seen more than four.
Oh btw I'll ask, again. What upgrades should I be looking for?

This post was edited by Higher on Nov 14 2012 09:17am

I offer advice for free, not gonna go on a thread jumping scavenger hunt. If you are so lazy you cannot make your post here like everyone else has, i am not really inclined to help u. My time is limited.



Def need vit on ur gear. U cant afford to replace purples with reds cause then ul be at like 30k hp which is not desirable at all given ur all res and armor. And yeah 24% ms is extremely importnat but once again, u cant really afford it which sucks cause 24% ms is pretty much a must for ww/nado spec for farming efficiency and consistent 5th nado spawn. Recommend getting vit on shoulders and a 200+ vit ik chest.



No u need both those for ms. Not sure why u using that crappy MH when u have another in ur stash so u shud do that first lol. then shud upgrade ur lacunis to str/vit/crit if u cant afford str/crit/allres.


Yeah elemental dmg definnitely matters! the fact that rolled that ring is insane. Cold dmg is THE BEST elemental modifier because it applies cold effect to EVERYTHING u hit. Doesnt matter if its hit by nado/ww or just reuglar auto atack, it gets slowed which is EXTREMELY valuable. The only shameful part is that it rolled revenge as the skill modifier = /. Unforunately no one uses it.



Yep, black dmg is the best type of wep to have cause it can roll higher dmg and also, when u get a SOJ, the elemtal dmg from the SOJ only applies to black dmg on ur wep. Doesnt get applied to any elemental bonuses on your mainhand.




Ice climbers or crit lacunis.



U shud b able to do mp6-8 but not faster than mp 5 even if u switch tod ual wield with your 100m budget. MP5 is the most efficient farm anyway, thats what I farm on, dont recommend going higher.



5.5% is okay but would recommend getting as close to 6 as possible b upgrading the slot and then u can turn on either tough as nails or superstition as your other passive.

Warcry is useless, dont need it. Use either rend or overpower as ur other skill. I like rend because I have a cold dmg SOJ which has rend reduction which makes it godly, for u, mite b better to use overpower.

upgrade to IK chest cus its BiS and ur jewelry needs wep dmg cause ur losing out on 20-30 dps right now ithout it.



NP ur welcome

Pop wrath, ull see it. Put EF in OH and get a high dps mace for ur mainhand

it's hilarious when you see someone accusing another of the very thing they are guilty of.
as far as i see he only criticized your opinion calling it bullshit while you used a lot of derogating words, toping it up with 'trash' directed at his person.
it simply shows your immaturity, lack of self-control and inability to take criticism even though the guy might be wrong.

I didnt flame, I just provided facts,

Im not raging, you clearly are.

The good barbs know that 25 ms still gives you the same chance of 5th tornado which is not 100%, its random, its all dictated by distance, not ms % on items.

''it does spawn a 5th tornado 100% of the time if u are in sprint and max movement speed'' ---> max ms from items is 25 not 24, this is how I know you dont know what you are on about.

You get 24ms on a barb for the movement speed bonus, not for tornado spawns. When you spam nados all the time, who cares if you make 4th or 5th if by the time you made the first one you just initiated another sequence?

The kind of tests im doing are the ones where I get my barb and press sprint, and use my eyes to gauge whats happening, what other kind of tests are there? LOL

And people are supposed to be getting advice from you? What a tool

https://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5208112782 --> ''More movespeed does not guarantee a 5th tornado spawn - it can spawn with 0% movespeed while failing to spawn on the 25% cap while also in wotb.''

NUMBER OF TORNADOES:
- 0% increased movement speed 5 tornadoes
- 12% increased movement speed 5 tornadoes
- 25% increased movement speed 5 tornadoes
Visual
first tornado at 0.9-1 second
seconds tornado at 1.4-1.5 sec
third tornado at 2 seconds
fourth tornado at 2.5 seconds
fifth tornado at 3 sec. 50/50 chance



lol, you make it sound like you're the only barbarian player out there and everyone is thirsting for your approval.

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 14 2012 09:58am

Actually my battlenet profile is only showing my mp1 alkaizer set up.

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/stridertnt-1812/stridertnt/4201444

Although my ehp is still bad. I can replace my andy's with my IK helm. What three items should I look to replace and what should i replace them with?

Thanks again for all your help.