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Jan 13 2013 12:44am
So if monks decide to not go shield... what you guys think of Echo + Butcher Sickle? I figure the constant CCin will annoy the crap out of your opponent lol. That Butcher stun is pretty fuckin often too. Only thing is maybe against barbs this setup wont be as effective when they WOTB.
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Jan 13 2013 06:56am
Quote (Anti-Ageryder @ Jan 12 2013 08:08pm)
Except that those are virtually impossible stats to have all at once. For reference, the #1 pvp dummy monk in the world (http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/gogogo-1629/Tory/1403986) has significantly less stats than juhazzz is claiming to have (hence juhazz's excuses as to why he can't post his profile right now).



impossible stats? no lol

the high res and AR - cuz shield, AR instead of fire / whatever res on items
the dps - nothing out of this world by todays standards, even for 1h / shield (i mean no offense, juhazz, your monk is sick)
the hp - vit and % life on nearly every slot add up quickly, and if a single slot has f.e 200-300 vit, and you have lots of % life, thats a LOT of hp. And you can get max like 250k hp in this game, he is not even half way there (<125k), pretty far from impossible!



Quote (juhazzz @ Jan 12 2013 08:40pm)
Wtf 40% ! That sounds quite nice, hard really to say if the high dodge chance is better or that reflect, but does really sound good, atleast vs glasscannons, as they would propably 1 shot themselves. Now i want even more that damn PTR :D


in pvm its shit but in pvp if there are big numbers ...

I calculated (I could be wrong) a realistic hungering arrow and cluster arrow LFB from a windforce dh in pvp with good all round gear to be something like 400-500 / 800-900k

lets assume the max 900k, and I'm sure they have some sort of dmg penalty (maybe 1/6 like in D2)

900000 x 0.4 x 0.1667 x 0.15 (? DR on a semi glass dh after shadow power) = ~9k life

this is with a pvp penalty! lol
and thats with 40%, with 80% its 18k life

ofc for loaded for bear, hungering would return ~1/2 that dmg

question is this reflect, do you still take the dmg yourself and then just reflect it back at the same time? or is it like dmg reduction? and will you want to use it over evasion mantra>?
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Jan 13 2013 07:03am
5-10% of pvp heal and then claiming to be nr1 pvp monk!

its gone be so match fun!
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Jan 13 2013 07:05am
Quote (markilbaldacchino @ 13 Jan 2013 15:56)
impossible stats? no lol

the high res and AR - cuz shield, AR instead of fire / whatever res on items
the dps - nothing out of this world by todays standards, even for 1h / shield (i mean no offense, juhazz, your monk is sick)
the hp - vit and % life on nearly every slot add up quickly, and if a single slot has f.e 200-300 vit, and you have lots of % life, thats a LOT of hp. And you can get max like 250k hp in this game, he is not even half way there (<125k), pretty far from impossible!





in pvm its shit but in pvp if there are big numbers ...

I calculated (I could be wrong) a realistic hungering arrow and cluster arrow LFB from a windforce dh in pvp with good all round gear to be something like 400-500 / 800-900k

lets assume the max 900k, and I'm sure they have some sort of dmg penalty (maybe 1/6 like in D2)

900000 x 0.4 x 0.1667 x 0.15 (? DR on a semi glass dh after shadow power) = ~9k life

this is with a pvp penalty! lol
and thats with 40%, with 80% its 18k life

ofc for loaded for bear, hungering would return ~1/2 that dmg

question is this reflect, do you still take the dmg yourself and then just reflect it back at the same time? or is it like dmg reduction? and will you want to use it over evasion mantra>?


:) Yup today it's like nothing to have 200k+ with shield, i've seen many 230k+ dps shield monks and even they don't have the top stuff in use.

And it's mostly this life% from quite many slots that raises the hp so damn much, 94% life with blackthornes 2 pieces. I still would prefer having dex, vita, allres, critical lacunis with blackthornes in use, but those good ones are so extremely expensive, that it will take a century before i could afford ones :p

Hmmh, sounds quite numbers with reflect mantra, not really a clue how it actually works, i think i take the damage too, but reflect that percentage back to the attacker, ofc the attacker has to be in that radius where the mantra is on him/her.
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Jan 13 2013 07:07am
Quote (Tommyvv @ 13 Jan 2013 16:03)
5-10% of pvp heal and then claiming to be nr1 pvp monk!

its gone be so match fun!


Get lost with your idiotic numbers already and try to get above 10k dps one day, i wonder why you didn't say to get pickup radius instead of some life return. That fist in use was just to boost that pvp-dummy status. Do you actually think that's the only weapon i can choose from ?

This post was edited by juhazzz on Jan 13 2013 07:08am
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Get lost with your idiotic numbers already and try to get above 10k dps one day, i wonder why you didn't say to get pickup radius instead of some life return. That fist in use was just to boost that pvp-dummy status. Do you actually think that's the only weapon i can choose from ?


show me your pvp-heal-weapons!
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Jan 13 2013 07:12am
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show me your pvp-heal-weapons!


Show me your character above 10k dps and learn to write english properly so it could be understood.

You can see on my profile the spear i have for sale in example, just if life steal is good:

And as you should know with all the numbers, life on hit doesn't cost anything nowdays, so i can get quite many similiar weapons like this spear with life on hit instead of life steal, with the difference, that pricetag is 1/10 of life steal one.

http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/22788178

So now i would like to see your character that fits in top #10000 and it doesn't mean top #10000 in pickup radius

This post was edited by juhazzz on Jan 13 2013 07:17am
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Quote (juhazzz @ Jan 13 2013 01:12pm)
Show me your character above 10k dps and learn to write english properly so it could be understood.

You can see on my profile the spear i have for sale in example, just if life steal is good:

And as you should know with all the numbers, life on hit doesn't cost anything nowdays, so i can get quite many similiar weapons like this spear with life on hit instead of life steal, with the difference, that pricetag is 1/10 of life steal one.

http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/22788178


its gone be so match fun!

why would you think thats a pvp-heal-weapon?
i see the slowest 1-hander posible that relay on luck to get heal


e/
if ask me, this is gone be life steal in pvp:
damage-armor/5*life steal=heal

in pvm its
damage/5*life steal=heal

and even if life steal stays the same, its on lucked based, vs a static char that not moves/cc/or whatever
damage

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Jan 13 2013 07:20am
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Jan 13 2013 07:18am
Quote (Tommyvv @ 13 Jan 2013 16:17)
its gone be so match fun!

why would you think thats a pvp-heal-weapon?
i see the slowest 1-hander posible that relay on luck to get heal


Nice english bro.

On-topic. I still see 1.8 APS with shield and almost max life steal on it.

You are free to make your piece of shit spirit regen monk whenever you want and get that 5k dps with it its gone be so match fun!
So where's your character now that fits into top #10000 and like i said before, not top #10000 in pickup radius

This post was edited by juhazzz on Jan 13 2013 07:20am
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Quote (juhazzz @ Jan 13 2013 03:12pm)
Show me your character above 10k dps  and learn to write english properly so it could be understood.

You can see on my profile the spear i have for sale in example, just if life steal is good:

And as you should know with all the numbers, life on hit doesn't cost anything nowdays, so i can get quite many similiar weapons like this spear with life on hit instead of life steal, with the difference, that pricetag is 1/10 of life steal one.

http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/22788178



just link his pathetic barb like this

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Tommyvv-2245/hero/15902775

and let him quit the topic in shame

you will own his ass in D3 and he will cry BM like he did in D2, his entire pvp / pvm career was an absolute failure :rofl:

Quote (Tommyvv @ Jan 13 2013 03:10pm)
show me your pvp-heal-weapons!



serenity and hand of ytar 65% dodge block 95% dr 125k hp and hopefully pvp penalty already >>>>>> needing loh / lifesteal

he has loh on pants, can switch out to a wpn with loh / ls both is they rly prove good / needed in pvp

1mln crit will hit him for 8k, if its not dodged and before block if its anything physical, and i doubt we will be seeing that much crits in pvp except maybe demon hunters, we will see tho!
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