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Jul 25 2012 05:45am
Quote (swmarwij @ 25 Jul 2012 13:28)
also to add to guide
put in there
wrath of the berserk has a hidden effect
it removes the packs from using knock back jailer frozen nightmare and a possibly a few other impairing things i didn't thinks of

also add in there
the things to watch for when using this build/difficult mobs
include waller and sheilding and molten without mass res


and if u decide to get this stickied
pm me with the final copy ill take the time to spell check it for ya


yes, i have to add also this.
I'm wainting a moderaton PM to edit the first post, and i'm upgrading the guide on Word atm... ty for you help anyway, i'll send you a copy :)

@cths: easier way to get loh is weapon and amu, becouse ring are very expensive... you can get +80-100 loh also from blackthrone's plant

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Jul 25 2012 08:54am
Tried it out. Good fun and it works well. Nice guide :)
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Jul 25 2012 10:29am
Quote (aveal @ 25 Jul 2012 16:54)
Tried it out. Good fun and it works well. Nice guide :)


good, i'm happy to hear this.
I made some changes and improvements at the guide, i'm waiting a Senior Moderator answare to update the first post, then i'll ask for the sticky :)
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Jul 25 2012 01:04pm
Does APS matter on off hand???

How does tornado's tick??

More APS = More tonado tick damage right?
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Jul 25 2012 01:48pm
What's the main reason for dual wielding over a shield for WW barbs?
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Jul 25 2012 02:31pm
Quote (dajusta @ 25 Jul 2012 21:04)
Does APS matter on off hand???

How does tornado's tick??

More APS = More tonado tick damage right?



read here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=63953107&f=142&p=427160232

and more aps = more hit per second from tornadoes = more life\fury

Quote (FlawlessGems @ 25 Jul 2012 21:48)
What's the main reason for dual wielding over a shield for WW barbs?

because with two weapon you reach more (and easier) LoH, crit dmg, attack speed, stats... and this build doesn't need to tank in front of enemies for long times... you're always is movment then block isn't essential... more loh is much better
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Jul 25 2012 07:05pm
also a decent amount of dex helps
it shouldnt be a "goal" but if u have 2 items exact same but one has dex the dodge % helps emensly
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Jul 25 2012 09:28pm
Quote (swmarwij @ Jul 25 2012 06:05pm)
also a decent amount of dex helps
it shouldnt be a "goal" but if u have 2 items exact same but one has dex the dodge % helps emensly


this is very true :)

id say pvp barbs would want at least 500dex on items for 20 or more dodge %

i have around 300 atm it helps a lot

nice video dude looks the same as what I do lol but I have a bit higher dmg my nados tick for 20k+ each on crits its awesome :)
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Jul 25 2012 09:40pm
Quote (thebiker @ Jul 23 2012 07:02am)
many ppl talk about this build, but there isn't a guide yet, so i'll try to post some guideline to buildout your own WW barbian step by step.

REQUIREMENTS:
you MUST hit this objet, else you'll never afford inferno:
  • ~40% crit change
  • 1k+ loh
  • ~45k life
  • 800 all res
if you haven't money to reach this point, stop reading, D3 is a full equipment based game, so no equipment no party.
INTRODUCTION:
first of all the main pont of this build is hit enemyes, and get fury + life from each hit , how?
life -> life on hit
fury -> crit hit (-battle range)
this two resourse (you don't say?) are the thing that keep you alive and make this build works so fine.
the main skill to reach them is SPRINT, not whirlwind, this is the most important thing to understand

SKILLS:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#ahiUkP!ZYb!YZYZcc
  • primary: BASH (instigation)
    a usefull skill to get enought fury to start with battle range & sprint... someone prefer frenzy, but i prefer bash.
  • secondary: WHIRLWIND (Hurricane)
    this is our primary attack when we are full fury , and keep hurricane becouse run fast with this build is basic for survive
  • WARTH OF THE BERSEKER (Thrive on Chaos)
    with this build (and rune), you can keep the berseker for 2+ minutes without problems... and it gives crazy bonus, (+25ias, +20 dodge, +20 movment, +10 cc)... i always use it with elite packs
  • SPRINT (run like the wind)
    always keep is casted when you fight, ALWAYS. it's only 3 second so you have to lanch this skill many times.
    The tornadoes rage in your wake is your biggest resource of life and fury, you must run trought enemyes so tornadoes will hit them many time and it will give you infinite fury & life.

    You must keep it casted also when you are WWing
  • BATTLE RAGE (into the fray)
  • WAR CRY (impunity)
    always keep on this two buff, pay attention cuz without one of them, you're fast dead.
  • Passive: Ruthless, Weapon master, nerves of steel

EQUIPMENT:
there isn't any end game item that i can tell you... barbian is the more expensive class i think, so more money you will spend, stronger you'll be.
I'll talk about the most important statistics, then you'll free to manage your money and improve your barb step by step, day by day.
Of course, vita, str and all res are important...they are always important, you already know it, and i've posted the requirements.
then, in my opinion the rule is:
CRIT CHANGE (cc) > ATTACK SPEED (ias) > CRIT DAMAGE (cd)

cc is basic, you need it to keep full your fury so you can use your skill... it's important to understand that this build is so FRAIL, for survive you must hit MANY times, your defense is attack
and without enought cc -> no fury -> no skill -> no hits -> DIE.

then, we can work on IAS...obviously faster hit = more hit = more life & fury!

for last, CD... dps is important, but it's the last and most expensive thing, so think to it for last

finnaly, just some notes about the items you should serach for:
(orderd by importance)
  • helm: all res, crit change, stats
  • amu\rings: crit change, loh, stats, crit dmg, all res
  • belt: all res, stats
  • chest: all res, stats
  • plants: all res, stats
  • boots: all res, 12% mov speed (VERY usefull), stats
  • gloves: crit change, all res, stats, crit damage
  • bracers: crit change, all res, stats
  • shoulders: all res, stats
  • hand: MUST be a axe\mace (+10cc with passive skill) with LOH, stats, crit dmg
  • offhand: i prefer to use another weapon (LOH,stats, crit dmg), but a good shield with allres, cc, stats us is good too (but you'll have less dmg)

okay, I think there are every information you need to set up your WW barb and start farming inferno, i'm sorry about my english, i don't know it very well...but it's all understandable i hope.

Good luck!


just to clarify the 800 All res requirement - is this buff or unbuffed?

seems a little difficult to get 800 all res all but please let me know? thanx
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Jul 25 2012 10:20pm
Quote (humcheem @ Jul 26 2012 03:40am)
just to clarify the 800 All res requirement - is this buff or unbuffed?

seems a little difficult to get 800 all res all but please let me know? thanx


800 is buffed
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