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Mar 18 2013 08:21pm
Quote (Mad1Lee @ Mar 18 2013 09:44pm)
"except wiz" is a soft way to put it. Also, from what I've seen here barbarian absolutely smashes everyone unless it's some godly geared monk/wd and even then he beats him with a comfortable margin.

check out Paul#6358 , very nice build for a wiz imho >3k life regen.

edit: also lol @ discussing diablo past present and future video and trying to keep the swearing out of youtube videos :rofl:

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Mar 18 2013 08:51pm
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"except wiz" is a soft way to put it. Also, from what I've seen here barbarian absolutely smashes everyone unless it's some godly geared monk/wd and even then he beats him with a comfortable margin.


YOu do know that manner barb is one of the best pvp barb right?
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Mar 18 2013 08:51pm
Quote (Silence[px] @ Mar 18 2013 03:37pm)
True, but 1 hex is a small margin of error for you. I'm just talking from this perspective: There is a player (Dennis) that gives you pretty good duels at first but you were able to completely shut him down after a while. It's quite obvious that he is lacking damage, he can't catch you and he gives you plenty of time to get openings because you can take his barrages so well. Now imagine his barrages hit you for up to 50% more per hit and at a higher rate while not sacrificing any defense stats, even gaining (E)HP. Or he could get 200k HP with nice regen from WDs skills without sacrificing on anything that he has now. That's what he would have if he would be roughly at your gear level but for WDs.
I don't know what would happen, maybe you would balance differently while still being able to kill him, maybe not. Just saying we need to wait for him/a good WD to get stats like this and I hope that's before you decide to sell up. If Blizz doesn't fuck up itemization with 1.08 the PTR will show what's up with perfectly pvp tuned chars going at it.

There is still some stuff I have yet to see from a WD vs. you. They never try to maximize dps for those windows hex gives them. Even Dennis is pretty much going with the standard barrage/haunt spamming build. He does nothing that we didn't already see from those duels on ptr vs. the asians. He uses hex well, but he doesn't use anything to get a nice burst in those windows, just a few free hits of his standard barrages and haunts. Gargantuan (kinda useless vs. rend and easily kited for a good barb) and rush of essence (really useless with his low aps) could be replaced for more burst (big bad voodoo or another dot, pierce the veil or a defensive passive) or more reliable cc (mass confusion with stun would be really good after 1 hex or to make the offensive spirit walk -> hex more reliable, your current build lacks charge or smth to get out of range fast after a hex, poison dart with snake to the face (needs more aps)). If he works on that part of his game and gets better gear it will be a joy to watch.
That's basically what they need to do. 1. help from utility skills in applying hex and 2. more efficient way to use the hex windows.

Yes, EHP calculation is flawed because there is no EHP number that factors in everything in one number like elite reduction, block, physical resistance and so on. But we don't need a calculator to see that 144k HP > 114k HP with similar armor/res numbers and non of the things mentioned before involved.


agree with most of what you said, we'l just have to wait and see. Hopefully more WDs with access to high tier gear step up to the plate and try to figure out their class.

well all except the part about big bad voodoo :P
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Mar 18 2013 10:39pm
ISo advice on what to upgrade next.

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/bige-1405/CountryGirl/29863939

I have an soj and a skorn as well. I have tgods. Also full ik. Also have a crit ss.

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Mar 19 2013 11:08am



Guys, how good are these barbarian's climbers? Like in millions of gold?
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Mar 19 2013 11:17am
THat would have been a lot of $ if it had movement speed! Still cool stuff man.
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Mar 19 2013 11:32am
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THat would have been a lot of $ if it had movement speed! Still cool stuff man.


no room for movement speed there. I am just wondering if I should buy those for 600 and resell for like 1 bill
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Mar 19 2013 11:41am
Nah. I wouldn't do it.

And I know there's no room for ms in that boots. lol
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Mar 19 2013 12:12pm
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http://i.imgur.com/9zX2ylE.png


Guys, how good are these barbarian's climbers? Like in millions of gold?

Solid boots although the benefit of health globes is kind of offset by no movement speed. Think about it why get +x health globes if you only going to have 12% move speed (lacuni) and they can catch you anyways?

Need that 24% vs dhs and wizs.

Maybe vs barbs/monks but I would prefer 250str/150+dex/75-100 vit instead of the 150 vit in that case.

So basically you have an excellent pair of vs wd boots there (although pretty sure blackthornes boots >> vs wds).

In that case you got nothing :)
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Mar 19 2013 12:20pm
so i sold my monk gears and have been paypaling stuff. have more in paypal than i can pull out so ive been gearing my barb at the same time. saw these for $44 and decided why the hell not i can probably make my money back on them. any ideas on what they are worth?

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