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Nov 8 2010 06:08pm
Quote (Boogersnot308 @ Nov 8 2010 05:06pm)
Lord of the Rings is also F2P now.


only games on the p2p list ive heard about is everquest, runescape membership, WoW, dungeons and dragons
i heard bout 8 of the f2p games
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only games on the p2p list ive heard about is everquest, runescape membership, WoW, dungeons and dragons
i heard bout 8 of the f2p games


dungeons and dragons online is free to play now
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Nov 8 2010 07:07pm
anyone who is complaining is just to cheap to pay a monthly fee for a game they may love.
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Nov 8 2010 08:31pm
Sure it should be pay to play. PAY TO BUY THE DAMN GAME.
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Quote (abstractPvP @ Nov 8 2010 06:07pm)
anyone who is complaining is just to cheap to pay a monthly fee for a game they may love.


paying a one time fee is enough, theres also some people who would pay a 2nd fee for a expansion, over all that is the electric bill
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Quote (bark334 @ Nov 8 2010 07:04pm)
ive heard of almost all the games boogersnot said, i only heard about 2 or 3 of those p2p
and runescape is f2p, membership is p2p, (optional)


If you don't pay for runescape your missing out on a lot of content. To all of the people that say "said game is f2p now" it only goes to prove the big point. Some games cannot live with monthly fees. D3 would be a disaster if it were p2p. D1 and D2 are f2p after the initial purchase. If they change it will suffer. Especially since a lot of D2 fans are already skeptical about D3.
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Quote (Gg_Timmah @ Nov 8 2010 02:39pm)
I agree completely. Any game thats f2p it has ended in chaos. Warcraft 3, diablo2, runescape. No matter what either they have to work their ass off to fix up the game from spammers and dupers (runescape) or they forget about the game completely and move on (diablo). If p2p is in then the game will take off.


this comment +1

he gave a nice answer to all your problems. pay for the game to make it real.

adding this to his comment: less cheats more serious ppl and ofc constant GM's that is acctuly really really really good to have in hand
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Nov 8 2010 11:27pm
i actually agree to this.. but 15$ a month? Thats too greedy for me.. not that i am poor, but 180 $ a year for pixels is a non-sense.. 5 $ a month, and im in!
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Quote (Godzor @ 8 Nov 2010 22:18)
this comment +1

he gave a nice answer to all your problems. pay for the game to make it real.

adding this to his comment: less cheats more serious ppl and ofc constant GM's that is acctuly really really really good to have in hand


P2P does not mean less cheats.
And his answer is actually wrong.
And making people pay money per month doesn't attract them, as I said before.
It pushes other people away.
And you would be surprised about how many people can't afford to pay $10-$15 a month.

This post was edited by Boogersnot308 on Nov 8 2010 11:57pm
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Quote (josh2234 @ Sep 10 2010 12:01am)
Ok guys let get this straight.

If you QQ about paying 10$-15$ a month to pay to play for a game, I think your living in like 1995 first of all.

The reason im saying this is, I dont want Diablo 3 to end up like Diablo 2.  I.E, scammmers,bots,cheat,hacks,dupes,spam,non english speakin people who are geting paid 1$ a week in a sweatshop because we want that bad ass item.


This was mentioned by someone else, but, just because you have to pay, it does not mean nor does it guarantee any less bots/cheats/hacks/dupes/spammers. And does it matter if tis well spoken English or not? oO

Quote (josh2234 @ Sep 10 2010 12:01am)
Ill go into detail.  When a company stops selling there game in mass amounts, they no longer are making decent $$ to support that game, whatever it may be. So charging a small amount every month gives them ability to support it, and solve the problems such as cheaters, viruses, hacks, gold farmers wtf ever...... AND ADD NEW CONTENT, AND FIX THE OLD OFC :)


Lets make an rough estimate; Say the game itself costs $40 too $50 (for sake of easier math, $45). Lets say at least an amount of 10million Blizzard fans (probably more if you look at how amazing the game looks thus far), that is already an amount of $450'000'00 (450 million). Now lets look at all the extra money Blizzard makes on World of Warcraft alone every month. ~~ Their monthly fee times 15million or so (can't recall, and many, many got more than one account).

Now my question to you is; Do you honestly think they lack, or will ever lack the small amount of money to ensure a proper working anti-cheat/bot/hacker mechanics and update content?

Also keep in mind that the mechanics they have now are far different from D2, reason it haven't been changed; they would have to redo every single core code for the entire game. Basically re-write the game.

You talk as if you know how a Fortune 500+ company works, yet it is quite obvious you don't, nor did you do any research at all.

Conclussion; No, making it a monthly fee cost will not ensure those points you brought up. They can and most likely will do that with their current mechanics, if you look at WoW and SC2 you can see the difference compared to the D2 mechanics to deal with it.


Quote (josh2234 @ Sep 10 2010 12:01am)
I personally also wouldnt want the guild wars approach either,...... coming out with an expansion every time someone cries so they can support there non paying game.

You can't compare NCSOFT with Blizzard. So not even gonna bother responding to that one.


Quote (josh2234 @ Sep 10 2010 12:01am)
If Diablo 3 is not pay to play, I give it a few months before it turns into the shit hole that d2 did.

Again, different time, new technology. Making it a pay-to-play will just make them lose a lot of customers, and if you calculate, the earn they get in a few months is about the same if not less than making it non-pay-to-play and just increase the purchase cost.

D2 a shit hole? How come there's still so many people playing it, after so many many years? Your comment doesn't make sense.

Sure, there's bots and dupers that lessens the fun of the game, but there's still a lot of real players, and so many people you can meet and play with.

~~ I'm not saying I want an exact replica of D2, but making it pay-to-play will not ensure anything of what you've said. Blizzards mechanics in there games these days will. Not to mention all of their eula's will put so botters/spammers in a dead-lock right away.


Quote (josh2234 @ Sep 10 2010 12:01am)
Opinions? Flames? Donations :) ?

Opinion/flames above.

Donation, pass on that =)

This post was edited by Smaaen on Nov 8 2010 11:50pm
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