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Nov 21 2012 01:48pm
2nd link doesn;'t show my full legacy =/
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Nov 21 2012 01:50pm
Quote (Shamx @ Nov 21 2012 03:33pm)
innas=1% + ias
rare pants = ~300dex + you get alot of vit/AR and possibly other useful stats, ehp (survivability) + damage output balance=greater thus making it more effective, dps isnt everything..........

lacunis to compensate for the MS and ias loss from pants, + you can get upto 6% crit with it as well as some res and/or vit thus making it better than an innas/rare bracers combo.



gems, lose the innas and get a witching hour and rare pants as I said above and possibly a lacunis with some kind of crit.



1.81 attack speed is good? just gems and witching hour if i can ever afford one T.T
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Quote (Shamx @ Nov 21 2012 04:28am)
amulet and rings are a bit weak.

Nats ring--> More crit and %life
Other Ring--> Higher CC and CD and possibly some vit and IAS
Amulet--> Higher all main stats + vit and possibly AR

you have 53k life but you seem to be skimping on vit (only 933), try to upp gear with more vit. 

Also if your depending on stunning enemies with that Thunder Bola Shot, then I suggest making ur right click Elemental Arrow--> Thunderbolts rune, this stuns on crit hits.  If thats not the case, lose that Bola and use the one with 20 radius, or Hungering Arrow.

Other than that pretty solid gear, I would link my char, but its currently using exp/speed setup, so the damage is a lot lower than it should be and skill setup is kinda funky lol (but it works for extremely fast para levelling)


yeah the rare ring and ammy are the next I need to upgrade.
I'm planning on getting a 200+vit ammy. I might wait till I roll a good hellfire ring! Thanks though!

What do you think about switching out my MOT for a Andy's with high dex?
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Nov 21 2012 01:53pm
Quote (Shamx @ Nov 21 2012 05:33pm)
innas=1% + ias
rare pants = ~300dex + you get alot of vit/AR and possibly other useful stats, ehp (survivability) + damage output balance=greater thus making it more effective, dps isnt everything..........

lacunis to compensate for the MS and ias loss from pants, + you can get upto 6% crit with it as well as some res and/or vit thus making it better than an innas/rare bracers combo.



gems, lose the innas and get a witching hour and rare pants as I said above and possibly a lacunis with some kind of crit.


thing is i use strongarm for kb. but i can consider moving to lacunis
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Nov 21 2012 02:03pm
another thing, depth diggers is the only one that i found that fits the stats description, and i dont think their cost/benefit is good enough

they are too expensive
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Nov 21 2012 02:07pm
Quote (pudding_mix_101 @ Nov 21 2012 01:50pm)
1.81 attack speed is good? just gems and witching hour if i can ever afford one T.T


no, 2+ is considered decent.

Quote (geelowzz @ Nov 21 2012 01:53pm)
thing is i use strongarm for kb. but i can consider moving to lacunis


I used to use it too, but I lose a lot of ehp because of it since strongarms dont spawn good with AR =/

Quote (land shark @ Nov 21 2012 01:51pm)
yeah the rare ring and ammy are the next I need to upgrade.
I'm planning on getting a 200+vit ammy. I might wait till I roll a good hellfire ring! Thanks though!

What do you think about switching out my MOT for a Andy's with high dex?


your going to be too squishy, you lose a shit-ton of ehp compared to mempos.
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Nov 21 2012 02:10pm
Quote (geelowzz @ Nov 21 2012 02:03pm)
another thing, depth diggers is the only one that i found that fits the stats description, and i dont think their cost/benefit is good enough

they are too expensive


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Nov 21 2012 02:50pm
Quote (Shamx @ 21 Nov 2012 20:33)
innas=1% + ias
rare pants = ~300dex + you get alot of vit/AR and possibly other useful stats, ehp (survivability) + damage output balance=greater thus making it more effective, dps isnt everything..........

lacunis to compensate for the MS and ias loss from pants, + you can get upto 6% crit with it as well as some res and/or vit thus making it better than an innas/rare bracers combo.


You can get EHP on bracers, too. The stats you gain from using rare pants or rare bracers over their legendary equivalents will be similar, the main difference between the two combinations is what you lose. With pants, you lose 100-150 vit and 60+ all res. With bracers, you'll drop 6 crit and 60+ all res. This is assuming that you have a garbage pair of Inna's and a pair of Lacuni's with both dex and vit, if you use a cheap pair of inna's with base vit, the EHP gap becomes even smaller. Unless you really need the extra vit, I don't see the point of using rare pants+lacuni's.

I don't consider the possibility of crit lacuni's as relevant, nor do I understand why you are bringing up rare pants with 300 dex, vit and high AR. You are arguing from the point of view that you will have an ideal pair of pants and a 6% lacuni's, and hence this will be better than a random inna's pants+rare bracer combo. This is a bad comparison.

This post was edited by Tails chao on Nov 21 2012 02:51pm
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Nov 21 2012 03:55pm
Any feedback on my items and build?
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mothcity-2947/hero/293950

I would use Perfectionist nornally, but right now im just rushing through mp0/1.
Inna's would be my next targetted item, but would you suggest me to just buy something or wait till i have alot of Gs? Only on 5m atm btw..

Pls no "U need mempo with 6cc, witching hour 160/9/50", be realistic for my low budget :P
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Nov 21 2012 04:02pm
Quote (Tails chao @ Nov 21 2012 02:50pm)
You can get EHP on bracers, too. The stats you gain from using rare pants or rare bracers over their legendary equivalents will be similar, the main difference between the two combinations is what you lose. With pants, you lose 100-150 vit and 60+ all res. With bracers, you'll drop 6 crit and 60+ all res. This is assuming that you have a garbage pair of Inna's and a pair of Lacuni's with both dex and vit, if you use a cheap pair of inna's with base vit, the EHP gap becomes even smaller. Unless you really need the extra vit, I don't see the point of using rare pants+lacuni's.

I don't consider the possibility of crit lacuni's as relevant, nor do I understand why you are bringing up rare pants with 300 dex, vit and high AR. You are arguing from the point of view that you will have an ideal pair of pants and a 6% lacuni's, and hence this will be better than a random inna's pants+rare bracer combo. This is a bad comparison.


isnt that what we're aiming for? To get that ideal BiS item? If not then we're not playing the same game :(

All top DHs are using crit lacunis with innas @_@, I guess the combination of both makes it better than our own ideas? o.O

Also I just don't see a rare bracer comparing with a well-stat lacunis (not just for crit, but the other rand rools rolling into something useful), link me a well stated rare bracer I want to see your side of the argument here cuase I feel like I am missing something here.

As for the pants the dex/vit/AR just seems to get you more of everything than just an innas with Dex/vit/AR and that 1%, even with a belt combo, a good witching hour will out do the belt and the 130dex output from set bonus.

But then again I still feel like I really am missing something. Link me some gears and lets compare some stuff.
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