Quote (Silence[px] @ Mar 18 2013 10:05am)
I'm not talking about crafted gear. I told you he looks like a good player but he can't overcome a gear disadvantage that huge.
His gear is nowhere near the gear that the asians put together on PTR. They had the stats I was talking about, but they also had the limitations on PTR. You remember how that used mana spirit walk and stuff like that to overcome the mana reg bug. Anyway, that's in the past and we don't know how they would do on live servers without those limitations against your massivel improved barb.
Just telling you that it's still way too early to come up with stuff like "WDs shut down again", this is not an endgame geared WD. If Dennis asians up and buys good gear then we will see. I can give you a breakdown of his gear and compare slot per slot vs. your barb. It's not even close. His shoulders are like a shitty vile ward (losing 300armor and 300reg vs. a good vile ward, I'd salvage them), no crit on gloves (non account bound rares can easily outroll the defensive stats of t&t), no soj, pickup radius on witching hour, no % life on zuni pox, skorn instead of 1h+uhkapian and lots of items missing 50 stats here and 2%life there (the difference between 200m items and 2b items)...
Not trolling, just telling you how it is and you should be able to see why his gear is not endgame. You of all should know how perfect items need to be for endgame pvp. Can't afford wasted rolls or low rolls. Tbh diablo pvp would be pretty much dead without your stream and videos.
There is only one WD that has this gear setup and perhaps surpasses it.
I will try to track him down for some fresh duels.
Here's the thing, on the topic of gear ceilings.
if a WD is simply just adding more DPS/EHP it's not going to solve anything. Your not considering a lot of things, even in that setup you showed me, EHP is really low, the damage isn't high enough vs a defensive build (you may get more openings but still not enough with 300k, this has been proven already for the classis barrage/haunt spam builds). Ehp gains are also tremendous for a WD early on since every armor/resist rolls are such huge gains, but diminishing returns are kicking in and honestly whether a WD has 400 resist/4000 armor or 600 resist/6000 armor, if we're talking in max rolls my damage output will negate the ehp gain.
a fully geared barb will be able to tank any amount of damage a WD can output with the items available in the current game (talking about max rolled gear).
it's a matter of strategy not just gear alone, and keep in mind I even mentioned it that I wanted to give WDs sometime to figure new shit out, the youtube video will just hasten the process since they will understand what I'm doing a bit better.
Dennis has success vs me because like I said, he has quite exceptional control and if he's performed how he did til now with what you call shitty gear then he's proven the point that skill/tactics can overcome gear disadvantage.
Which is a good thing.
But this is now at a point where my build/strategy is much more optimal than his is vs me.
We shall see, maybe some top geared WDs haven't quit the game since they didn't buy buyers for their WD.
it's hard to just link ppl's dprogress and show what pvp gear they have, good players all have collections of items.
Not sure if this WD quit or not but he had pretty good gear, Nephtis#3450
This post was edited by mannercookie on Mar 18 2013 12:53pm