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Nov 21 2012 11:00am
Quote (Tails chao @ Nov 21 2012 09:49am)
why would you use lacunis and rare pants over innas and rare bracers?


Sorry its not updating for some reason i am wearing lacunis. 140 dex 40 vit.


And nats boots are better than ice climbers?
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Nov 21 2012 11:06am
Quote (RabidDonkey @ 21 Nov 2012 18:00)
Sorry its not updating for some reason i am wearing lacunis.  140 dex 40 vit.


And nats boots are better than ice climbers?


I was saying it to the guy I quoted. :p

imo you should try to get 2pc nats if you're not using a legacy build, I think the best way to get this in theory would be to use a godly nats ring+cloak (freeing up your boot slot for Ice Climbers or legacy Zuni boots), but a good nats ring is super expensive, so I would use nat boots until you have a good ring, especially since your crit chance is pretty low.

You definitely need to get more crit chance, if you focus on that and get better CD gems in your manticore it'll help boost DPS.
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Nov 21 2012 11:10am
Quote (Tails chao @ Nov 21 2012 10:06am)
I was saying it to the guy I quoted. :p

imo you should try to get 2pc nats if you're not using a legacy build, I think the best way to get this in theory would be to use a godly nats ring+cloak (freeing up your boot slot for Ice Climbers or legacy Zuni boots), but a good nats ring is super expensive, so I would use nat boots until you have a good ring, especially since your crit chance is pretty low.

You definitely need to get more crit chance, if you focus on that and get better CD gems in your manticore it'll help boost DPS.


I am looking at nats boots on the AH and i do not see how they are better than ice climbers...they actually seem to be worse...except for all res?
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Nov 21 2012 11:14am
Quote (RabidDonkey @ 21 Nov 2012 18:10)
I am looking at nats boots on the AH and i do not see how they are better than ice climbers...they actually seem to be worse...except for all res?


You need more crit, the 2 piece bonus gives crit.
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Nov 21 2012 11:24am
Quote (Tails chao @ Nov 21 2012 10:14am)
You need more crit, the 2 piece bonus gives crit.


ok i see...so nats ring and boots over ice climbers and my ring should equal more damage over what i have now? OR would it be better to get cloak? Then i lose the +130 from innas.
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Nov 21 2012 11:56am
Quote (RabidDonkey @ 21 Nov 2012 18:24)
ok i see...so nats ring and boots over ice climbers and my ring should equal more damage over what i have now? OR would it be better to get cloak? Then i lose the +130 from innas.


Use cloak+boots, then get rings with more cc on them (you will most likely gain more dps from using rings with 5~ crit even if they don't have dex). Ideally you want to use a cloak anyway, +max disc is important without legacy nats. Inna's Chest is pretty bad on a DH.

If you want to keep the Inna's 2 piece bonus you can pick up a cheap inna's belt, you don't really lose much from your old belt apart from the MF, and imo it's important to have a solid set-up with decent EHP/DPS so you can run consistently and efficiently before getting extra stuff like MF.

If you want to check dps/ehp upgrades, use this site: d3up.com

This post was edited by Tails chao on Nov 21 2012 11:59am
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Nov 21 2012 01:25pm
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Gems.
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Nov 21 2012 01:33pm
Quote (Tails chao @ Nov 21 2012 10:49am)
why would you use lacunis and rare pants over innas and rare bracers?


innas=1% + ias
rare pants = ~300dex + you get alot of vit/AR and possibly other useful stats, ehp (survivability) + damage output balance=greater thus making it more effective, dps isnt everything..........

lacunis to compensate for the MS and ias loss from pants, + you can get upto 6% crit with it as well as some res and/or vit thus making it better than an innas/rare bracers combo.

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gems, lose the innas and get a witching hour and rare pants as I said above and possibly a lacunis with some kind of crit.
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