Dawg - you brought up the concept of testing builds for the average joe. The average cmwiz has 2.74aps, so there's no point for time stretch, it's an inferior skill, period. I did mp10 ghom to hint at something that you didn't - irrespective of the actual dps claims, the meteor build is weaker/prone to death. If you did your sns/meteor test on mp10 ghom, you could very well see ... poor times using your meteor build due to staying alive vs just using sns and this will reflect upon elite pack encounters as well (you get the highest dps on mp10 vota with your meteor build? faster clear times than sns? ooook).
In the end, the build with the fastest consistent dps and clear times (dps/s, inclusive of deaths) is the most effective build. Please don't toss out factually impossible statements like '50% increase over SNS' and I won't be forced to respond. It's grossly misleading - try measuring your actual dps using fraps or a dps meter. In regards to your claim on meteor shower vs molten impact - I saw your thread on the wiz forums and I'll refrain from linking it here: there's several people telling you that meteor shower may not be the best skill (for 1.08 I think you may be right! but not yet...). Just to make it quite clear, many of us have played and tested meteor wiz, some of us maybe in greater detail (recording video than going back frame by frame and counting numbers). So please keep that in mind when you make those blanket statements. If you want to tout your build, good for you but since nobody else is saying so on this forum I feel obligated to present the counterpoint so that a large number of wanna-be cmwizzes aren't misled

Armory skills I used are the same ones you showed.
@drake22: Nice man. ep monks ftw.
Quote (Mad1Lee @ Apr 9 2013 10:21am)
Well, you are not providing a counterpoint, man. Obviously, there is no use testing Time Stretch if you got 2,74 aps, why did you even bring that up. I have 2,84 aps and Time Stretch takes me to the next breakpoint, that's why I test it. Also, I already mentioned, versus mp10 ghom meteor build is less effective than bubble build, so testing it there is useless. I believe there are exactly zero situations close to environment you get at mp10 Ghom except MP10 Ghom and Ubers. Versus Azmodan and elite packs it's the most effective dps, and I have tested molten impact - it's actually less dps per run. Can you also show armory you used for meteor test?
Only good point was about edps = clear times. However, in group teleport won't help with reducing clearing time and I rarely farm solo. And even if I do, I chose areas with high mob density so I don't have to run for long from one group to another.
This post was edited by ElijahBailey on Apr 9 2013 03:34pm