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Jan 19 2013 10:43pm
Quote (amok @ Jan 19 2013 11:04pm)
Hi guys,

I just made a WD and bought some cheap items (total of 30m spent, including gems) for him. As I rushed him to lvl 60 in 4 hours, I have no idea about the class :)

I just read some threads and tried a few builds (I played for a total of half an hour on mp1:)) The recent setup I have went smooth but maybe it can be smoother, can you give me some advice on my build please? Thanks.

Here is the char: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/AM0K-2754/hero/24531632


I'd first suggest changing acid cloud to corpse spiders if you're going to also be using bears! It's gonna be really hard to keep your mana up with 2 big mana spenders as your main attacks!
For higher mp i'd use bears, but for quick mp1 farming swap out bears for acid cloud! Most people will swap out blood ritual for vision quest to couple with corpse spiders!

Horrify with your current ruin is for lower mp i'm guessing.. That slot is basically a free one depending on your build!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/eMeRGeD-1583/hero/91967

That is my current setup with skills and whatnot! I obviously have a much higher dps, so my skills reflect that since i'm only doing mp1 runs with the build and don't need much defensive stuff

But again.. I'd suggest just sticking with Acid cloud for mp1 runs (since mp1 is probably most effective/ or mp0 )

As for gear, weapon is the easiest to get a big dps bump from! A new hellfire ring might do some good as well!
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Jan 20 2013 04:55am
Quote (Something92 @ 20 Jan 2013 06:43)
I'd first suggest changing acid cloud to corpse spiders if you're going to also be using bears!  It's gonna be really hard to keep your mana up with 2 big mana spenders as your main attacks! 
For higher mp i'd use bears, but for quick mp1 farming swap out bears for acid cloud!  Most people will swap out blood ritual for vision quest to couple with corpse spiders!

Horrify with your current ruin is for lower mp i'm guessing.. That slot is basically a free one depending on your build!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/eMeRGeD-1583/hero/91967

That is my current setup with skills and whatnot!  I obviously have a much higher dps, so my skills reflect that since i'm only doing mp1 runs with the build and don't need much defensive stuff

But again.. I'd suggest just sticking with Acid cloud for mp1 runs (since mp1 is probably most effective/ or mp0 )

As for gear, weapon is the easiest to get a big dps bump from!  A new hellfire ring might do some good as well!


Thanks for the comprehensive review!

I will check out your suggestions and see what happens. Thanks alot!
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Jan 20 2013 05:13am
Quote (TDI @ Jan 20 2013 03:30am)
Okey guys, i did some testing with echoing fury and manajuma's dagger. ( i didnt do tests for other elemental dmg weapons, buti predict it would be the same.

So...
Poison dmg from zunni boots does more with echoing fury than with manajuma's.(this %psn dmg is a LOT in fact!)
average damage on rings(+x dmg or min/max dmg) does more with fury than with manajuma's.
tal rasha amulet with its +5/6% elemental dmg is superb to any other amulet while using echoing fury.(psn/holy>fire>rest if i remember well)

Ive been doing lots of comprehensions between diferent weapons and in my opinion    echoing fury      is the best possible choice for WD.


Also what i checked is how much dmg is added from crit% gem. 100% crit chance on gem is equal to 17k dps. Calculation is specific to my champion, i just thought that some of you may wonder how much it is for real.


Esh... its a shame i dont have gold for a nice tal rasha amulet :(


have you done the testing with really equal weapons? So Same amount of int/dmg/chd? Would be nice if you could post the two weeapons your used to compare the facts.
And how do you deal with not having any ll on your wd? or do u get a ef with socket and ll?
best regards

This post was edited by Fable1988 on Jan 20 2013 05:18am
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Jan 20 2013 09:59am
yo i just leveled my wd to lvl 60 and have no idea what to do.

i want to speed paragon lvl mp0-1

if anyone can point me towards builds or gear that would be sweet. ty
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Jan 20 2013 10:32am
hi there,

would anybody be so kind and help me what to upgrade on my wd?
got around 100m to spend
link: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Aparillo-2776/hero/23747853

thanks in advance
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Jan 20 2013 10:46am
Quote (Fable1988 @ Jan 20 2013 11:13am)
have you done the testing with really equal weapons? So Same amount of int/dmg/chd? Would be nice if you could post the two weeapons your used to compare the facts.
And how do you deal with not having any ll on your wd? or do u get a ef with socket and ll?
best regards


Hey !
I changed my manajuma to this echoing fury, it has ll. I dont have enough gold to get nice ef with socket. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Woncho-2770/hero/24112961
Testing ive been doing was acurate acording to my champion.

For example - to test 8 % psn dmg from zuni boots i bought boots with exact same amnout of int as zuni boots but without this 8 % dmg, i was switching them and checking dps that it will add to weapon that i had in stash. Bonus added to weapons with black dmg was larger than bonus to weapons with elemental dmg. On my champion this 8 % psn dmg adds 5k dmg more on black weapon than on elemental weapon.
%ele dmg from tal rasha amulet works as good as zuni boots on black weapons.

This post was edited by TDI on Jan 20 2013 10:46am
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Jan 20 2013 10:50am
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/LAq-2230/hero/5381475

100kk to spend atm, what to change? : /
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Jan 20 2013 11:53am
Quote (LAq @ Jan 20 2013 04:50pm)
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/LAq-2230/hero/5381475

100kk to spend atm, what to change? : /


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Jan 20 2013 12:41pm
Quote (Bw_traveler @ Jan 20 2013 11:32am)
hi there,

would anybody be so kind and help me what to upgrade on my wd?
got around 100m to spend
link: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Aparillo-2776/hero/23747853

thanks in advance


I'd say your rings probably.. They seem like your weakest point atm

Quote (LAq @ Jan 20 2013 11:50am)
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/LAq-2230/hero/5381475

100kk to spend atm, what to change? : /


Unless you feel like you really need the MF on all your items.. Mainly Zuni Ring/Helm and your amulet!

Quote (TDI @ Jan 20 2013 11:46am)
Hey !
I changed my manajuma to this echoing fury, it has ll. I dont have enough gold to get nice ef with socket.  http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Woncho-2770/hero/24112961
Testing ive been doing was acurate acording to my champion.

For example - to test 8 % psn dmg from zuni boots i bought boots with exact same amnout of int as zuni boots but without this 8 % dmg, i was switching them and checking dps that it will add to weapon that i had in stash. Bonus added to weapons with black dmg was larger than bonus to weapons with elemental dmg. On my champion this 8 % psn dmg adds 5k dmg more on black weapon than on elemental weapon.
%ele dmg from tal rasha amulet works as good as zuni boots on black weapons.


Did you test this with weapons specific to the +% of that element? As in, did you use a poison weapon and compare it to a black dmg for zuni boots?
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Jan 20 2013 12:58pm
Quote (Something92 @ 20 Jan 2013 18:41)
I'd say your rings probably.. They seem like your weakest point atm


thank you for that. what exactly should i be looking for? zuni with cc i assume? since im mostly doing low-mp (0-1) exp runs, i´d like to keep the hellfire...
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