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Oct 18 2015 02:15am
Quote (mewlad @ 17 Oct 2015 15:06)
don't go derp yourself. know the basics of snapshot and how bp build works.
obviously i was talking about how coe build is wayyy better at snapshotting because of the mechanics, not snapshotting coe into the damage since it's dynamic so that's not possible.

with bp, it's almost impossible to snapshot properly as you need to keep hitting to proc bp and by hitting you're losing the snapshotted target. so snapshotting is really not workable with bp.
with coe, you don't need to hit more than once for fnr buff, and keeping the snapshotted target is a lot easier.

it's not about on paper simulation and numbers. it's about viability of actually achieving the numbers during actual situation in high grs.
bp just simply cannot deliver the dps in large group of mobs due to the icd and the way its stack reset during aoe hits.

for single target yes, bp build is potentially higher damage than coe build.
but for large group, bp simply falls behind if aoe disrupts bp procs.


Dude no need to go elitist here and rustle your jimmies, I know how all the mechanics work.

The bolded part I don't understand, you don't lose the snapshot when attacking, you're just spreading it with SSS. Also you don't need to keep BP proc up when you're kiting the snapshotted mob to another pack.

Yes during this time BP will do less damage since it's not procced, but when you reach the next pack you'll start getting those again.

Problem with BP is that you cannot hit 3 times unless all of the mobs have palm or otherwise you'll lose the snapshot. So in this case yes, BP loses out by a mile.
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Oct 26 2015 06:31pm
Anxious for blizzcon D3 announcements
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Oct 27 2015 09:43am
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Anxious for blizzcon D3 announcements


The broom closet space they gave Diablo 3 doesn't leave a lot to desire for.
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Oct 27 2015 08:01pm
They didn't have much room slotted last year but that was when ancients and shit were announced

D3 expansion incoming ;)

This post was edited by Shawnyboy on Oct 27 2015 08:03pm
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Oct 28 2015 01:14am
Quote (Shawnyboy @ 28 Oct 2015 03:01)
They didn't have much room slotted last year but that was when ancients and shit were announced

D3 expansion incoming ;)


If that ends up being true, I expect this:

Max level 80, up from 70
New items
New maps
New events
Still no PvP
Still no end game
Still no trading

Will we all buy it because it might actually be enjoyable even after 20 hours? Probably.

This post was edited by uNoTopia on Oct 28 2015 01:15am
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Oct 28 2015 03:53am
Quote (uNoTopia @ Oct 28 2015 12:14am)
If that ends up being true, I expect this:

Max level 80, up from 70
New items
New maps
New events
Still no PvP
Still no end game
Still no trading

Will we all buy it because it might actually be enjoyable even after 20 hours? Probably.


ive got over 2500 hours in D3. Id say I got my moneys worth
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Oct 28 2015 05:19am
i really dont understand people crying for trading. what is the purpose for trading? items can be got easier then ever. what you gonna trade for? for money? to get even more billions of gold?
also with stash space problem i have no clue where will i put items for trade... totally pointless argument

pvp? you got it as brawling. with chars criting for billions of damage few time in second i doubt pvp will be available as people used to do it in diablo 2. if they gonna adjsut chars for pvp, others will vine that they are not good for pvm anymore. mybe something can be done about it but i think that will require total overhaul of the game...
end game? what is end game? what was end game in diablo 2?

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Oct 28 2015 05:58am
Would be nice to have some kind of currency in the game
But ya... lvl 80 chars is pretty obvious
Inb4 new goblins

Also d2 pvp is best m8

This post was edited by CallMeMatt on Oct 28 2015 05:59am
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Oct 28 2015 11:42am
D2 pvp was absolutely broken too, that's why people had to make their own rules.

Gm zeal. Gm ww.

No poison, no slows, no desynch.

More rumors of D3 expansion!
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Quote (Shawnyboy @ Oct 28 2015 01:42pm)
D2 pvp was absolutely broken too, that's why people had to make their own rules.

Gm zeal. Gm ww.

No poison, no slows, no desynch.

More rumors of D3 expansion!


D2 pvp is pretty balanced imo
Obviously you need rules when items are designed to make you invincible. Just think about all the sorb you can use

Dont think d3 will ever have balanced pvp
Classes and builds on D2 remained the same for a decade
You get new skills / items every patch on D3

Also skills like ... smoke screen ... serenity... op....
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