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Jan 16 2013 12:17pm
Quote (ae1337 @ Jan 16 2013 06:02pm)
How do you deal with good monks that use dashing strike, serenity, and seven sided?
They have god mode/cc immunity longer than spirit walk, can even destroy "physical form" and dispel sw very fast. You can't run away, cast zombie wall, because they teleport over it.
Ofc spamming haunt, wos, running around these walls and obstacles helps, but if they catch you with their teleport attack, wd is kind of screwed.
I mean good, 300k dps monks, that can rip through spirit walk, on a 1m ehp wd in no time.


aerials ive seen the wd fight an insanely good monk and msot of the time this is how it went:

wd would spam spiders off screen to dmg him before he gets on his face. as soon as the monk would be on his face, he would pop fear. fear sometimes got dodged by the monk (its stupid) but if it did land, monk would be running away for a solid 5 second, which gives the wd the opportunity to spam poison, spiders and dart.

IF fear doesnt land, you have your hex doll that polymorphes him for another solid 5 second. thats another window for a wd to burst them down. if fear misses and ur doll is acting retarded, you have mist walk to get away from the monk for another 5 second. (remember, theyre constantly slowed by spiders and dashing strike has a range, so if u can run off screen they have to walk up to you)

mist form breaks any kind of cc there is on you. stuns, freeze, fears... all of them can be broke by spirit walking. so if they 7 side strike you you can jsut press 1 and there, does nothing.

the matchup is purely attrition. wd's can kite so well its not even funny. out of maybe 50 rounds, ive seen the monk win like 5-10 top.

ill backup my claim with footage jsut give me a sec.

here:
http://www.twitch.tv/d3slone/b/357368389
go to 16:00 this is when he starts fighting with the monk. a 2 hour long footage.

trust me man, im not saying omfg wd doesnt die to anything but from this footage, i can conclude that this build is fucking insanely powerful.

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Jan 16 2013 12:23pm
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Jan 16 2013 12:24pm
Well, I'm talking about situation like this:

Monk sees you somewhere on screen, uses 1x dashing strike, to teleport at you, instantly uses serenity. Gets immunt to fear and hex, any cc + god mode. Attacks you, when you immediately cast spirit walk it can destroy physical form and cancel your spirit walk. Even if not, serenity lasts 4s, spirit walk 3s. Then they use seven sided that lasts about 2s. During all time time they are invulnerable to damage and cc. You can survive this only with spirit vessel, then hex charms them and you "win". You can't run away during that combo, because they just keep teleporting at you. Monk is glued to you till him or you die.
Ppl alsy suggest to use locust + haunt, double dot owns any monk, they will always die, even if you die.

can't watch ur vod, requires access code

This post was edited by ae1337 on Jan 16 2013 12:28pm
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Jan 16 2013 12:27pm
Quote (ae1337 @ Jan 16 2013 06:24pm)
Well, I'm talking about situation like this:

Monk sees you somewhere on screen, uses 1x dashing strike, to teleport at you, instantly uses serenity. Gets immunt to fear and hex, any cc + god mode. Attacks you, when you immediately cast spirit walk it can destroy physical form and cancel your spirit walk. Even if not, serenity lasts 4s, spirit walk 3s. Then they use seven sided that lasts about 2s. During all time time they are invulnerable to damage and cc. You can survive this only with spirit vessel, then hex charms them and you "win".
Ppl alsy suggest to use locust + haunt, double dot owns any monk, they will always die, even if you die.


well i wont lie im very unexperienced with the game so i cannot claim otherwise with proof. on paper it sounds about right but it never is that simple when ur in an actual duel. that monk in the footage had serenity / dashing strike / bell stun and even then he kept getting kited.

i guess we'll see? but for now, i htink his build is def. something worth looking at mate.

oh and also, for people interested in his item build:
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/lone-1162/Daenerys/1951584

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Jan 16 2013 12:30pm
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Jan 16 2013 01:44pm
Yesterday I played against a really good WD. He has insane gear though 220k unbuffed paragon 45. What he did was he abused the map and kept his distance at all time. He spammed spider that slows, and once he had enough distance he would spam acid cloud. If I got too close he would use horrify to fear. There is no reason why you guys should die to monk with spirit vessel and spirit walk. Learn to kite.
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Jan 16 2013 01:56pm
it was so fun playing against WDs. kiting/chasing/telepoting/kiting.

i think playing against WDs/DHs are the most fun part of pvp for monks.

i have a WD as my second. very happy to see that you guys are very strong in pvp games!

lets play pvp together sometimes
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Jan 16 2013 06:00pm
Great to see that this topic is so popular! :D

I have played on my barb for some time now and i want to swap back to my witchdocter, but thing is; i started d3 for 2 weeks ago..
Therefore i have some questions:

How much gold do i need for a WD who can handle inferno mp1?
How much gold do i need for a WD who can handle inferno mp5?
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Jan 16 2013 07:54pm
Heya guys,
im just wondering what stats on weapon i should be looking for ?
Whats the best option ?

Regards !
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Jan 16 2013 09:25pm
So I've never geared a WD before...

And have a very tight budget of about 90m.

Is that doable?

Can anyone offer some advice?

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Jan 16 2013 09:56pm
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So I've never geared a WD before...

And have a very tight budget of about 90m.

Is that doable?

Can anyone offer some advice?

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Yes it's very doable... I fully geared my WD for 30m and he can clear up to mp4 about to try mp5 tonight (a3 runs)
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Jan 16 2013 10:30pm
Quote (Funion @ Jan 16 2013 09:56pm)
Yes it's very doable... I fully geared my WD for 30m and he can clear up to mp4  about to try mp5 tonight  (a3 runs)


any advice on the gear to look for?
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