With the stats in my post I can tank anything in 4 player in A3 or A4 except molten/plagued ranged guys, which I have to kite a bit.

Standing in Azmo's pools can be done with even lower stats than I have. It does not compare to the damage from many elites, which I have used to determine my "minimum" values.

For reference to those who don't read back a page, those minimum values were:

650 AR (buffed) / 6500 armor (buffed) / 950 LoH / 37.5k HP

And I have since added 3% life leech to ensure I don't have to pay attention while playing.

This post was edited by thingstuff on Aug 27 2012 07:55am

I am actually encouraging the person I am encouraging to use Overpower instead of Warcry, which is a better tanking skill compared to Warcry. By doing so naturally you have to compensate the loss of Natural Resist by increasing the base. Which you infact claimed yourself, "680ar buffed", as highlighted in your above quote in bold.

I am not sure if you read everything I typed at Post #251, at point number 5, which in fact you quoted yourself, that I encourage the person I'm encouraging to replace Warcry with Overpower (Storm of Steel). Hope you have not over look that. Thank you very much.

This post was edited by Jaxz on Aug 27 2012 08:10am

I changed my tank build to this today and bought new gear etc. Is it me that just dont know how to play or is it my barb ? http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kako-2874/hero/9640320

Hi, the use of Storm of Steel is not really focus on the damage, but on the Life on Hit. I have experiment a need to replace the lost of a very good tanking skill (CA in 1.03).

1) I tried going back to the conventional Warcry (Impunity), which I think it is back to square one with no improvements.

2) I have considered the use of Ignore Pain (Contempt for Weakness), but the cool down is atrocious, serve no meaning at all to aid tanking.

3) I realsie the trick in tanking is infact the natural ability of Overpower to be able to shorten its cooldown whenever a Crit Rate is detected. With the natural high crit rate of ww barbs, it makes Overpower very useful. I decided to explore in depth if there is really any runes that I can utilise to serve as a replacement for the Nerfed Crushing Advance. I tried The New Crushing Advance, it is atrocious! Can't even perform in Single Player!

4) I experiment with Killing Spree, things seems to improved a little in Single Player, but back to square one in Public games. I know I cannot give up and have to find a very good public Game tanking skill. Because It serve no purpose to claim your barb can steam roll Act 3 which in fact it can only do it in solo mode with a follower. Public games is a whole new different level, imagine out of 10 games, majority are noobs. I have seen many players with only 8k damage trying to farm together with us in Act 3 and refuse to leave. In the end, he kept feeding his character to elite packs, if not he is kiting like no tomorrow, not my area of control but it makes me wonder how is he managing his funds and gold effciently? Sometimes if you are that unlucky, all 3 players are kiters, leaving you alone to tank elite phasebeasts. My recommendations and specs allow you to have the room to tank all these elites alone in a 4-player game. Unless you can assure that most public players are top-notch, then sure, go ahead and have a lower spec barbarian. (Hint: Speech targeted at thingstuff... I love to have a public game with him and see how his barb perform in public games).

5) I decided to explore the rune, Revel, in 4-player public games again with noobs, this rune sucks and cannot help the barb to tank.

6) I finally settle with Storm of Steel, I realise the axes thrown seems to allow some life return. 3 axes thrown equal 3 times of LoH. Not as powerful as the 1.03 Crush Advance, but at least it is something. I have since kept my dual-wielding weapons in my inventory, and reuse my Sword/shield build, back to olden days, tank barb ww build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jaxz-1792/hero/17504052

I will switch out my Spear and Dagger from my inventory when dealing with Azmodan or Diablo, for better killing speed since there are no elites to worry about. (It's like their underlings are even stronger than their End-Act Boss himself, totally the opposite of Diablo 2), and most public are players with 8k damage can caused a lot of time loss in farming for the team, have to use shield.

This post was edited by Jaxz on Aug 27 2012 08:50am

how much armor is recommended for this WW barb pls?

I think your 1.1k LoH is a little low, remember, Blizz nerf the number 1 Tanking skill, Crushing Advance, you need more LoH to compensate on your barb now. I recommend 1500.

Secondly, your off-hand has really nice dps however I don't like it, remember Sprint is your main form of attack, not ww. Please refer to this video for explanations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qBCI70iFHo



And also hear from Kripp explaining about Selecting the correct WW Weapons for Dual-wielding:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=%5FCuN8GpIVzo

This post was edited by Jaxz on Aug 27 2012 08:48am

Around 6.5k @dual-wield at least I think. If possible, try getting 6.5k unbuff and replace Warcry with Overpower (Storm of Steel).

This post was edited by Jaxz on Aug 27 2012 08:36am

Only 27k HP
and 18k DPS

But
2.2k LOH
46.5% Crit
550-560 All Res unbuffed

Got it after 96h of play. Some AFK time included.


Okay health peeks are a bit scarry and maybe I find some Act3 packs I can not get. But firest packs are down now. So it works

This post was edited by Tarion on Aug 27 2012 06:56pm

I cannot get sprint & ignore pain...am i doing something wrong

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Tylerqua-1903/hero/23155139
Can't do shit in a3.. what do?