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Dec 18 2012 02:11pm
Quote (WannaB3 @ Dec 18 2012 08:50pm)
this way we have our oh ias for nados and ww right? using an ef as of , so i got 1.45 x 1.(15+25+32) = 2.494
what about mh? got a mace 1.20 speed , should i calculate and this after calculate my average and then i got my total ias?
0.25 from ef going on mh also? read somewhere about a bug ^^

Tnx for your reply!



yes if you have ef and a 1.2 mace then they are both same speed, cuz ef is also a 1.2 mace base and since it transfers that +0.2x to any other weapon

so you are at same tickrate on both weapons.

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Dec 18 2012 02:13pm
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First, many thanks for this post, been using it for a while now, info is very helpful to understand what you doing and why.

Now, about my gear - [URL=http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Slayver-2329/hero/21136745] http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Slayver-2329/hero/21136745 [/URL]

Been trying for a while to see what to improve, currently having no issues with mp8, mp9/10 are very doable but not too efficient. the goal is to change that (have a 500mio budget for it - or more if i get another lucky drop).

- I have been thinking to upgrade the belt, but it will mean i have to get the all resists from somewhere else as witching hour with high enough str and all resists are nearly non-exist or i will have to sell a kidney to buy one.
- get a mempo instead of current helm - only get ias from it, which helps, but i do think i can get better value for money on other slots as i am happy with my current helm
- other option is to stay with the belt for the LS, and switch my MH (will mean a Str and Vita hit, but it should be rather easy to recover). Going further with that i got lost... any recommendations?


any other slots/ideas will be great (rotating a crappy hellfire and a soj on the ring slot depending on the fight and waiting for a better roll there)

Thanks in advance

This post was edited by Inspiration11 on Dec 18 2012 05:57pm
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Dec 18 2012 07:57pm
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First, many thanks for this post, been using it for a while now, info is very helpful to understand what you doing and why.

Now, about my gear - http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Slayver-2329/hero/21136745

Been trying for a while to see what to improve, currently having no issues with mp8, mp9/10 are very doable but not too efficient. the goal is to change that (have a 500mio budget for it - or more if i get another lucky drop).

- I have been thinking to upgrade the belt, but it will mean i have to get the all resists from somewhere else as witching hour with high enough str and all resists are nearly non-exist or i will have to sell a kidney to buy one.
- get a mempo instead of current helm - only get ias from it, which helps, but i do think i can get better value for money on other slots as i am happy with my current helm
- other option is to stay with the belt for the LS, and switch my MH (will mean a Str and Vita hit, but it should be rather easy to recover). Going further with that i got lost... any recommendations?


any other slots/ideas will be great (rotating a crappy hellfire and a soj on the ring slot depending on the fight and waiting for a better roll there)

Thanks in advance


ur at the point where its totally up to you..

witching and keep LS MH or keep IK and get a diff MH both will work just fine
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Dec 19 2012 02:15am
Since im pretty new to barb ww build i need some directions

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Darknoller-2387/hero/17659407 <-- profile
My res is close to 450@ expt fire res which is 709
5.9 LS and 1130 LOH

I need some advise on what gear i need to change. I see i need to change my offhand but can i equip my current MH to my OH and go for a better MH, like echo ?

Is there anything else you guys can see i need to change maybe also the build ?

Fell free to ask or pm me with details/info/guidelines, i will be tracking this topic

ps. I was thinking of going ONLY with LS and no LOH and get close to 3.0 LS on both my weapons so i in total get 3(skill)+2.9(belt)+3(MH)+3(OH) =11.9 LS. Is that a stupid idea and would it work without LOH at all ? Heard alot of ppl talking about its bst to have a little of both, about 6%LS and min 1000LOH

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Since im pretty new to barb ww build i need some directions

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Darknoller-2387/hero/17659407 <-- profile
My res is close to 450@ expt fire res which is 709
5.9 LS and 1130 LOH

I need some advise on what gear i need to change. I see i need to change my offhand but can i equip my current MH to my OH and go for a better MH, like echo ?

Is there anything else you guys can see i need to change maybe also the build ?

Fell free to ask or pm me with details/info/guidelines, i will be tracking this topic

ps. I was thinking of going ONLY with LS and no LOH and get close to 3.0 LS on both my weapons so i in total get 3(skill)+2.9(belt)+3(MH)+3(OH) =11.9 LS. Is that a stupid idea and would it work without LOH at all ? Heard alot of ppl talking about its bst to have a little of both, about 6%LS and min 1000LOH


build is fine, i like bash instigation generator and bloodthirst passive choice too.

i think 12 lifesteal > 6 lifesteal and 1000 loh, because loh lost 60% efficiency now and lifesteal scales with dps which just keeps getting better and better. however your current setup 5.9 LS and 1130 LOH is pretty good too. I wouldnt change that unless you really have trouble leeching.

upgrade all gems if / when you can, makes a small but noticeable difference

Mainhand needs a bit more dps, or actually 5xx - 10xx + raw dmg range

problem i see is you have 38k hp and a lot of that (like 1/4) is coming from your offhand with 2xx vit, so if you get a dagger offhand make sure it has some vit too, because you seem to have overlooked vit stat in some gear peices.

Try get an IK chest with more vit / str, and vit on ik belt too

You need some more ias and a faster offhand

I strongly suggest a str mempo (w/o crit chance, cuz would be too expensive and you will still have 55+ cc with wotb on cuz i counted it) ... will give you more ehp and much needed ias

I could suggest jewelry upgrades but thats always the most expensive area and they seem solid to me. So leave it for now

tho you are still a plvl3, i suggest you play a bit more often with your barb on different mp levels and see where the best loot / exp / kill speed ratio for you is.

I hope this helped

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Dec 19 2012 04:47am
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Dec 19 2012 05:43am
Quote (Tboner @ Dec 19 2012 03:57am)
ur at the point where its totally up to you..

witching and keep LS MH or keep IK and get a diff MH both will work just fine


thanks for the reply

For the weapon i am a bit lost as to what stats to look for, was thinking about a 1,200ish dps and a socket as a base, and after that what should be my prio? str ? CD?


Quote (pjevs @ Dec 19 2012 10:15am)
ps. I was thinking of going ONLY with LS and no LOH and get close to 3.0 LS on both my weapons so i in total get 3(skill)+2.9(belt)+3(MH)+3(OH) =11.9 LS. Is that a stupid idea and would it work without LOH at all ? Heard alot of ppl talking about its bst to have a little of both, about 6%LS and min 1000LOH


11.9LS sounds too much to me, dont forget when you upgrade your dps LS heal for more as it is a percentage of the damage and not a fixed amount like loh

This post was edited by Inspiration11 on Dec 19 2012 05:43am
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Dec 19 2012 06:43am
Quote (markilbaldacchino @ 19 Dec 2012 11:46)
build is fine, i like bash instigation generator and bloodthirst passive choice too.

i think 12 lifesteal > 6 lifesteal and 1000 loh, because loh lost 60% efficiency now and lifesteal scales with dps which just keeps getting better and better. however your current setup 5.9 LS and 1130 LOH is pretty good too. I wouldnt change that unless you really have trouble leeching.

upgrade all gems if / when you can, makes a small but noticeable difference

Mainhand needs a bit more dps, or actually 5xx - 10xx + raw dmg range

problem i see is you have 38k hp and a lot of that (like 1/4) is coming from your offhand with 2xx vit, so if you get a dagger offhand make sure it has some vit too, because you seem to have overlooked vit stat in some gear peices.

Try get an IK chest with more vit / str, and vit on ik belt too

You need some more ias and a faster offhand

I strongly suggest a str mempo (w/o crit chance, cuz would be too expensive and you will still have 55+ cc with wotb on cuz i counted it) ... will give you more ehp and much needed ias

I could suggest jewelry upgrades but thats always the most expensive area and they seem solid to me. So leave it for now

tho you are still a plvl3, i suggest you play a bit more often with your barb on different mp levels and see where the best loot / exp / kill speed ratio for you is.

I hope this helped


This is sick man. REALLY good guide and nice descriptions on whats good and what needs to be done. I will look into it, maybe when i have farmed some gold with my monk and have the gold for upgrades.
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Dec 19 2012 09:17am
Quote (Inspiration11 @ Dec 19 2012 01:43pm)
11.9LS sounds too much to me, dont forget when you upgrade your dps LS heal for more as it is a percentage of the damage and not a fixed amount like loh


yes 11.9 ls is a bit overkill in general, and if you got 200k+ dps unbuffed even 6 lifesteal might feel overkill, but on MP10 one can never be safe enough. So it depends on what content and what gear the barb in question is running.

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Dec 19 2012 09:39am
Hey, what should i upgrade next? im kinda lost atm^^

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Daniel-2811/hero/14026200

Budget atm: 65mil

This post was edited by dbNLDarkshadow on Dec 19 2012 09:40am
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Dec 19 2012 09:50am
Quote (dbNLDarkshadow @ Dec 19 2012 05:39pm)
Hey, what should i upgrade next? im kinda lost atm^^

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Daniel-2811/hero/14026200

Budget atm: 65mil


pants imo , innas for ms i believe is the best choise!
then maybe gloves with some cd? dunno , this ^^.

e/ btw markilbaldacchino , tnx for your replys m8 :)

This post was edited by WannaB3 on Dec 19 2012 09:50am
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