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Jul 27 2012 12:05am
Quote (Veranor2 @ 27 Jul 2012 06:57)
Um...

Okay I can do A2 in my sleep with those stats. You need to change your skills out or perhaps work on your gameplay. Dying maybe 1 or 2 times throughout the entire run is what I'd expect here, at worst.


Uhm no that'd be a lie, having that low resistance and the low armor along with his low dodge chance I'd say it's fully understandable if being raped in a2 by any elitepacks with just firechains / molten / plague, not to mention arcane..

I sit on 802 all res, 6112 armor (yeah shield), 41% dodge, 25% block sacred shield, 31k unbuffed dps, roughly 33k hp and I faceroll a3 combining MoC - Overawe / MoE - Hard Target depending on mood and if solo or party.

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Jul 27 2012 12:43am
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Uhm no that'd be a lie, having that low resistance and the low armor along with his low dodge chance I'd say it's fully understandable if being raped in a2 by any elitepacks with just firechains / molten / plague, not to mention arcane..

I sit on 802 all res, 6112 armor (yeah shield), 41% dodge, 25% block sacred shield, 31k unbuffed dps, roughly 33k hp and I faceroll a3 combining MoC - Overawe / MoE - Hard Target depending on mood and if solo or party.


Look I've done A2 all the way thru Belial with 550 @res, 50% dodge w/o mantra (with passives) 1k life per second and 5% life leech. I don't even use LOH anymore.

His skill spec is ultra important with those stats of course. But it is doable. Especially for a DWer with that much crit.
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Jul 27 2012 12:51am
Quote (Veranor2 @ Jul 27 2012 02:43am)
Look I've done A2 all the way thru Belial with 550 @res, 50% dodge w/o mantra (with passives) 1k life per second and 5% life leech. I don't even use LOH anymore.

His skill spec is ultra important with those stats of course. But it is doable. Especially for a DWer with that much crit.


so your saying you dont do act 2 in your sleep with those stats?

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Jul 27 2012 01:00am
Quote (Ylem122 @ Jul 27 2012 01:51am)
so your saying you dont do act 2 in your sleep with those stats?


Huh?

He's got a lot of crit. I think he can do it. Obviously you can't stand in stuff and have to get out of the way, but its doable imo.
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Jul 27 2012 01:02am
Quote (Veranor2 @ Jul 27 2012 03:00am)
Huh?

He's got a lot of crit. I think he can do it. Obviously you can't stand in stuff and have to get out of the way, but its doable imo.


huh?

hes got 33% dodge, you said you had 50 unbuffed?

hes got 900 loh and 100 regen you said you had 1k regen and 5% ll?

hes got 515 res you said you had 550?

hes ghot 28k life, what did you have?

as said above its very unlikely that you could sleep through act 2 with the stats he has.

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Jul 27 2012 01:09am
Quote (Ylem122 @ Jul 27 2012 02:02am)
huh?

hes got 33% dodge, you said you had 50 unbuffed?

hes got 900 loh and 100 regen you said you had 1k regen and 5% ll?

hes got 515 res you said you had 550?

hes ghot 28k life, what did you have?

as said above its very unlikely that you could sleep through act 2 with the stats he has.


That's why I want to know what his passives are. Without the passives, yes, I can see dodge being that low. If he had guardian's path and sixth sense set, he should be at 50%, maybe slightly less. Like 1 or 2% less at.

If he changed to FoT + Lightning, used Cyclone strike or dashing strike, I can see his dodge getting in the high 60s, maybe touch 70%. That alone right there, should help him immensely. He still has to move around to avoid arcane desecrator and maybe even stacked plagued.

Granted the % is not permanent, but he'll be hitting stuff, and cyclone strike helps with loh. At the time I did A2, the only difference between me and him was I had about 40 more @res. I even think I had a little less dex, although I dont remember at this point.
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Jul 27 2012 01:27am
Quote (Veranor2 @ 27 Jul 2012 08:09)
That's why I want to know what his passives are. Without the passives, yes, I can see dodge being that low. If he had guardian's path and sixth sense set, he should be at 50%, maybe slightly less. Like 1 or 2% less at.

If he changed to FoT + Lightning, used Cyclone strike or dashing strike, I can see his dodge getting in the high 60s, maybe touch 70%. That alone right there, should help him immensely. He still has to move around to avoid arcane desecrator and maybe even stacked plagued.

Granted the % is not permanent, but he'll be hitting stuff, and cyclone strike helps with loh. At the time I did A2, the only difference between me and him was I had about 40 more @res. I even think I had a little less dex, although I dont remember at this point.


You can walk blind-folded through a2 with 100 res and 3k armor, that doesn't mean that your character is "comfortable" in a2 and able to farm. Every once in a while there comes a player that says "Oh a2 was ez with 100 res", yeah obv if u skip 99% of all elite packs and just run like a mofo. With a Monk, in my opinion atleast, it's never about just running through an act and then being able to brag about how easy it was for you, which would be the case for a DH or alike, it's about feeling comfortable enough to actually STAY in a2 and farm the shit out of them elites. Lemme know when you can do this with 500 all res and 4k armor, rando. In this case it doesn't even matter the slightest what skillbuild you have, any arcane/firechains/molten/plague/frozen/jailer/waller/desecrator combo will slay the fuck out of you unless you have in the upper 70k's DPS and 2k LoH.
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Jul 27 2012 01:54am
Quote (eddy1977 @ Jul 24 2012 10:31pm)
facerolling with this setup.
i want to be one of the top dps monks, however.
this means 100k-ish and more

pls give me tips on which part to upgrade effectively?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/luvval3ri3/monky.jpg


any help pls
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Jul 27 2012 02:24am
Quote (CorZor^ @ Jul 27 2012 02:27am)
You can walk blind-folded through a2 with 100 res and 3k armor, that doesn't mean that your character is "comfortable" in a2 and able to farm. Every once in a while there comes a player that says "Oh a2 was ez with 100 res", yeah obv if u skip 99% of all elite packs and just run like a mofo. With a Monk, in my opinion atleast, it's never about just running through an act and then being able to brag about how easy it was for you, which would be the case for a DH or alike, it's about feeling comfortable enough to actually STAY in a2 and farm the shit out of them elites. Lemme know when you can do this with 500 all res and 4k armor, rando. In this case it doesn't even matter the slightest what skillbuild you have, any arcane/firechains/molten/plague/frozen/jailer/waller/desecrator combo will slay the fuck out of you unless you have in the upper 70k's DPS and 2k LoH.


I wasn't trying to come in here and brag. That wasn't my intent. I don't have a track record for that. I apologize if that was perceived as such. With respect though, I was able to do A2 with slightly similar numbers.

I had 40 more @res, 876 LOH. I changed my passives to OWE, Guardian's Path, and Sixth Sense. I changed my left-click to FoT + lightning, and my right-click to Cyclone Strike + Wind or Dashing Strike + Blinding Speed. Fully buffed, with maybe 40 or 50 more points in dex than him and about the same health, I had around 73-76% dodge. This was sufficient enough for me to start farming the ZK chambers without issues. My crit was the same area his is and my damage was about 200 or so above his. I could do all the elite packs I ran into. Had problems with waller arcanes, but its a stick and move type of situation. Obviously I had to kite molten, plagued, and desecrator. I used cyclone strike to pull those mobs from their pools, pound away on them, and repeat when the pools moved. This got me through Belial with relative ease. I think the first run was 90 or so seconds.

When I realized I did more damage thru AoE, I dumped LOH for LL. I also added LPS after the belial run to go with the LL.

After that I added around 60 more resists, and went to go play A3. My damage improved to 35k after I started to dump some crit damage items for more dexterity and cc, as well as 2 new weapons with socket and crit. Right now my roadblock is Ghom, but I'm working out some math around this to see if I can get through it.
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Jul 27 2012 02:37am
Quote (eddy1977 @ 27 Jul 2012 08:54)
any help pls


there is a dps calculator http://www.d3dps.com/

and a ehp calculator http://rubensayshi.github.com/d3-ehp-calculator/#calculator/2e2b2325-004a-99ff-397b-b6512d9230de

u have to play with numbers, and finding out the best way, this is the best what u can do, before you upgrading your gear.

u have great stats, so u can focusing on getting more dex:



1. amu: try to get another amu with 220+ dex/vit / crit chance % /lr . getting lr is important here to compensate what u gonna loose on belt (atleast with this stat) , losing loh wont make any difference on 70k dps.

2.belt: after u can upgrade your belt ( i know it has great res, but still u can get 40dex from there) , u can loose some res, depends on what your new amy.

3. mh: u can snipe pretty good deal on 1-2 , but not on 3.
even if your mh has high dps, os, but has low base crit dam%, and zero stat
so try to get same dps, with 100+dex( higher is better ) +base crit dam+ open socket , it will cost u a lot

3+1 gloves: getting higher dex /as /crit chance % /lr one will net u dps inc. aswell (loosing the 3x crit ) but not too much around 1200-1500 (according to dps calc, and depending on as/crit/dex on new gloves) , but everything matters

so u got the point, play with calculator, focus on dex, i woulldnt go below 560-570 res, u can sac some crit % if its improve your overall dps

hope it helps, cheers

This post was edited by shadowb on Jul 27 2012 02:56am
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