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Jul 22 2012 11:27am
Is there any good setups for dualwielding that actually can do act3 very easily (Easy means not dying from a single touch to Molten, Arcane discosentry, Desecrator, 1 hitting from skull cleavers etc.)

I'm using shield setup and stats like this:

43 000 Hitpoints (unbuffed)
44 000 Damage per second (unbuffed) (61 000 buffed) My shield doesn't have critical chance and / or dexterity, only 120 all resistances, 25% block and 350 life regen.
1000 All resistances (unbuffed)
7200 Armor (unbuffed)

33% Block (Helm of command)
40% Dodge
38.5% Critical chance
250% Critical hit damage
1500 Life regen
700 Life on hit

This setups makes Act3 very very easy, but I still would like to clear it much much faster, but I'm wondering if the huge loss of resistances, armor and blocking rate from shield makes my monk killable again ?

There are good passives etc for dual wield, but I really would like to try out the dualwield thing for 400% critical damage, while maintaining around 40% critical hit chance. But the problem is the cost of those damn critical damage weapons and i really wouldn't like to waste 100mil for a test.

This post was edited by juhazzz on Jul 22 2012 11:56am
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Jul 22 2012 11:58am
Quote (juhazzz @ Jul 23 2012 04:27am)
Is there any good setups for dualwielding that actually can do act3 very easily (Easy means not dying from a single touch to Molten, Arcane discosentry, Desecrator, 1 hitting from skull cleavers etc.)

I'm using shield setup and stats like this:

43 000 Hitpoints (unbuffed)
44 000 Damage per second (unbuffed) (61 000 buffed) My shield doesn't have critical chance and / or dexterity, only 120 all resistances, 25% block and 350 life regen.
1000 All resistances (unbuffed)
7200 Armor (unbuffed)

35% Block (Helm of command)
40% Dodge
38.5% Critical chance
250% Critical hit damage
1500 Life regen
700 Life on hit

This setups makes Act3 very very easy, but I still would like to clear it much much faster, but I'm wondering if the huge loss of resistances, armor and blocking rate from shield makes my monk killable again ?

There are good passives etc for dual wield, but I really would like to try out the dualwield thing for 400% critical damage, while maintaining around 40% critical hit chance. But the problem is the cost of those damn critical damage weapons and i really wouldn't like to waste 100mil for a test.



yes there are setups that work n its tested. u just need 750res 40khp n pump the rest into dps. i've dropped my LoH weapons for more dps
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Jul 22 2012 11:59am
equipping another weapon will award u 15% increased attack speed bonus, this with additional extra crit dam + dex on oh will be a huge dps boost.

880 ar is enough for a3 speed runs as dw (sure u have to kite some packs)

38,5 crit chance w/o shield bonus is really nice for dw , every single extra crit dam will be a huge dps boost.

spec : just go with :

fist of thunder(thunderclap)
blinding flash (faith in the light)
breath of heaven (blazin wrath)
serenity( ascension)
sweeping wind (cyclone)
mantra of conv(overawe)

dunno about your exact dex number, but must be around 2200-2300, even a 7xx 1.4 speed sword with base crit(45+ ) + open socket +11x dex+ oh weapon will add atleast 16k dps.

try to aim close to 2aps while using same aps weapons.

about passives: seize, one with everything, and u can go with transcende with your gear (if u taking too much dam u can alway switch back to resolve, but i just prefer the transcende playstlye)

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Jul 22 2012 12:10pm
Alrighty, i've been looking for ages now for a new weapon, atm i use 840 dps fist with 97% crit base and socket, so i get 187% crit now from there. I've been looking for a decent weapon that beats my current one if somehow the dualwield thing is not working, so i could replace my current weapon with it.

I really much enjoy using Fists of thunder with thunderclap in mouse1 and then in mouse2 i have Way of the hundred fists with Blazing fists rune = attack speed and movement speed for limited time and that attack speed gives quite a huge boost to damage. Currently i have under 2000 dexterity, but that's the reason why I'm having hard times to find new weapon, as I'm looking for 900+ dps, ~200 dex, 90+ base critical and socketed weapon. If those come to auction house, the price is so sick that there's no way i could even think about buying them.

Just earlier had a walk-by in act4, no kind of problems in there, but still i would love to hit something like 90k dps unbuffed and keep the same survivability as i have now. Somehow i find it very hard to believe that it could beat this, as now i can walk into any elite pack and kill them in pretty much no time without dying, ofc i need to use serenity pretty often, but who doesnt :)
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Jul 22 2012 12:27pm
Quote (juhazzz @ Jul 22 2012 12:27pm)
Is there any good setups for dualwielding that actually can do act3 very easily (Easy means not dying from a single touch to Molten, Arcane discosentry, Desecrator, 1 hitting from skull cleavers etc.)

I'm using shield setup and stats like this:

43 000 Hitpoints (unbuffed)
44 000 Damage per second (unbuffed) (61 000 buffed) My shield doesn't have critical chance and / or dexterity, only 120 all resistances, 25% block and 350 life regen.
1000 All resistances (unbuffed)
7200 Armor (unbuffed)

33% Block (Helm of command)
40% Dodge
38.5% Critical chance
250% Critical hit damage
1500 Life regen
700 Life on hit

This setups makes Act3 very very easy, but I still would like to clear it much much faster, but I'm wondering if the huge loss of resistances, armor and blocking rate from shield makes my monk killable again ?

There are good passives etc for dual wield, but I really would like to try out the dualwield thing for 400% critical damage, while maintaining around 40% critical hit chance. But the problem is the cost of those damn critical damage weapons and i really wouldn't like to waste 100mil for a test.


I wouldn't call it a waste. I did it (although it wasn't 100 mil).

Without seeing your items we couldn't possibly begin to tell you where you could improve. We can only speculate. Maintaining 400% crit hit damage + 40% chance is going to be your biggest challenge while increasing base dps on the weapons. The more you increase damage, the less resists you need. There are monks floating around with 200k unbuffed. The last guy to post those kind of stats had around 400 res all and was melting elites through a4. From the looks, he didn't have as much regen as you though.

Remember, this would be a build that keeps you in the red often. If you're comfortable with that sort of thing, then this build is for you. Otherwise, stick with the shield.
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Jul 22 2012 12:28pm
Quote (juhazzz @ Jul 22 2012 01:10pm)
Alrighty, i've been looking for ages now for a new weapon, atm i use 840 dps fist with 97% crit base and socket, so i get 187% crit now from there. I've been looking for a decent weapon that beats my current one if somehow the dualwield thing is not working, so i could replace my current weapon with it.

I really much enjoy using Fists of thunder with thunderclap in mouse1 and then in mouse2 i have Way of the hundred fists with Blazing fists rune = attack speed and movement speed for limited time and that attack speed gives quite a huge boost to damage. Currently i have under 2000 dexterity, but that's the reason why I'm having hard times to find new weapon, as I'm looking for 900+ dps, ~200 dex, 90+ base critical and socketed weapon. If those come to auction house, the price is so sick that there's no way i could even think about buying them.

Just earlier had a walk-by in act4, no kind of problems in there, but still i would love to hit something like 90k dps unbuffed and keep the same survivability as i have now. Somehow i find it very hard to believe that it could beat this, as now i can walk into any elite pack and kill them in pretty much no time without dying, ofc i need to use serenity pretty often, but who doesnt :)



I have 2 fists. One has 92% crit dmg and the other has 97%. Both are above 700 dps. Could be higher, but they also have life leech, life per spirit, and dex/vita. Its been hard finding a really good replacement to them.
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Jul 22 2012 12:33pm
Quote (juhazzz @ 22 Jul 2012 19:10)
Alrighty, i've been looking for ages now for a new weapon, atm i use 840 dps fist with 97% crit base and socket, so i get 187% crit now from there. I've been looking for a decent weapon that beats my current one if somehow the dualwield thing is not working, so i could replace my current weapon with it.


dagger dagger dagger dagger




while the dmg isn't that good, I'm still running with about 35k dmg (BoH buffed) and they work great. 2.2 aps and working on getting even more.
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Jul 22 2012 12:35pm
Quote (Veranor2 @ 22 Jul 2012 21:27)
I wouldn't call it a waste.  I did it (although it wasn't 100 mil).

Without seeing your items we couldn't possibly begin to tell you where you could improve.  We can only speculate. Maintaining 400% crit hit damage + 40% chance is going to be your biggest challenge while increasing base dps on the weapons.  The more you increase damage, the less resists you need.  There are monks floating around with 200k unbuffed.  The last guy to post those kind of stats had around 400 res all and was melting elites through a4.  From the looks, he didn't have as much regen as you though. 

Remember, this would be a build that keeps you in the red often.  If you're comfortable with that sort of thing, then this build is for you.  Otherwise, stick with the shield.


Well that's not a good thing, I really don't enjoy being in the red situation, that's when i always panic :D So I guess I'll stick with the shield and try to find new one, which is also goddamn hard, that has 10% critical, around 100dex, 120 resistances and atleast 25 block, been looking for that kind of thing for 3-4 weeks now.

I can make screenshots out of my items and post the pictures here. I know that there are few things that needs improving, but as AH-addict, i can tell that it's very very hard to find good life regen gear :) Picture soon..

Edit. really don't want weapons without base critical, as i'm so tired of buying those temporary items every day and trying to sell them for 50% after noticing it wasnt good :p

This post was edited by juhazzz on Jul 22 2012 12:37pm
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Jul 22 2012 12:41pm
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Well that's not a good thing, I really don't enjoy being in the red situation, that's when i always panic :D So I guess I'll stick with the shield and try to find new one, which is also goddamn hard, that has 10% critical, around 100dex, 120 resistances and atleast 25 block, been looking for that kind of thing for 3-4 weeks now.

I can make screenshots out of my items and post the pictures here. I know that there are few things that needs improving, but as AH-addict, i can tell that it's very very hard to find good life regen gear :) Picture soon..

Edit. really don't want weapons without base critical, as i'm so tired of buying those temporary items every day and trying to sell them for 50% after noticing it wasnt good :p


The reason you get stuck in the red often is because in order to get those type of insane numbers, you end up sacrificing a ton of things, regen being one.

The regen you have is an anomaly for this build. If you can maintain it, I seriously doubt you'll have issues. You might lose attack speed though, so life leech might be something for you to investigate.
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Jul 22 2012 01:05pm
Alright got the pictures now, forgot that I changed new pants yesterday for huge resistance bonus, lost some armor and some around 2k damage and some life regen, but I guess around 110 more resistances and 4000 hitpoints should replace it.

Some comments of the items from myself.

Helm of Command isn't propably the best there is, but haven't seen any better for a decent price from AH, this one was only 12 millions.
Bracers, well yeah.. One of the first items I bought like 5 weeks ago, been stuck with the life regen from there
Chest armor, can't afford to lose that life regeneration from there, haven't found any better yet to replace this, no matter how hard I look :/
And my shield, well it's obvious for what reason it is this one, i've looked everyday for atleast 10 times for new shield, but no luck yet :)
And finally that belt, been badly looking for new belt also, there are pair of very nice belts in EU for sale, but they cost so much that I haven't yet bought either one of them, as I'm looking for a new weapon like mentioned before and need to save some gold for that.

Just linking the picture here.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/54295246/d3/monkyboy.jpg

Noticed the difference in using mantra of conviction vs evasion, that when i use evasion mantra, i'm actually gaining more health potions, with conviction they slowly go down ^_^

This post was edited by juhazzz on Jul 22 2012 01:17pm
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