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Sep 10 2012 12:55pm
I know it's different for everyone but identical (int,ar,vit) zuni and tal chest, the tal chest gave me about +7000 more dps than the zuni, even with the +130 int set bonus. So I would say it's more wise to go with the tal chest for most people.
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Sep 10 2012 03:27pm
Quote (Formosa @ 10 Sep 2012 20:55)
I know it's different for everyone but identical (int,ar,vit) zuni and tal chest, the tal chest gave me about +7000 more dps than the zuni, even with the +130 int set bonus. So I would say it's more wise to go with the tal chest for most people.


calculated around the same

currently using ice climbers without mov , onyl 12 from lacuni , but i need 24 mov. Question for me was , do i buy zuni trails and buy a zuni chest get the 130 int bonus or do i buy tal armor with ar and nice ice climbers 200 int + 12 mov. Well winner is tal armor with ice climbers , even if the zuni trail got 8 psn and around 180 int . Only if u get a aphysical weap the zuni combo wins , but i won't buy a new weapon for now and those physical ones are pretty rare with sox crti and ll over. Only problem i got now is that there is only trash in the ah , i need a tal armor with 160 vita + 160 int + 50 ar +
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how much dps do i need for 2.7%LL? currently i have 93k
worth to loose 9apoc and 260 vita for higher dam? i'm using average 160dam 260 vita 8.5cc 8x int 9apic offhand, thinking on trium

life 39k 3xx loh 2.7lifeleech 93k dps 1.6as

This post was edited by Akizk on Sep 10 2012 04:24pm
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Quote (Akizk @ 11 Sep 2012 00:15)
how much dps do i need for 2.7%LL? currently i have 93k
worth to loose 9apoc and 260 vita for higher dam? i'm using average 160dam 260 vita 8.5cc 8x int 9apic offhand, thinking on trium

life 39k 3xx loh 2.7lifeleech 93k dps 1.6as


it depens if u need apoc , a freezer needs it , tornados heal u with loh and make the crits , but if u are archon and u only use the tornados to reset your archon cd like me, then u can live without it , still its's sometimes a pain in the ass without , i recommend get apoc on 1 item , either offhand or weapon.

Why do u want 2, 7 ll , get 3 ll or , 2,9 , 80 % gets nerfed anyway in inferno thus with 3 % u gain only 0,6 % back. Anyway , you really should try it out first before u make a purchase and it doesnt work for u . Buy a cheap weapon where u dont loose too much dps with ll and try it with your playstyle , if life regaining is low for u , u should think about getting life on hit. But 100 k dps is good enough was my experience, had 105 k dps and 2,9ll. Now i have around twice as much dps and ofc u gain more life , but the enmies die twice faster too , so it's about the same life amount i guess.

My advise , test it yourself
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Sep 10 2012 05:21pm
Is there anything for a budget build? (50 Million)

Gear + skills?
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Sep 10 2012 05:23pm
Quote (Smokey-101- @ Sep 10 2012 04:21pm)
Is there anything for a budget build? (50 Million)

Gear + skills?


50 Mil is plenty to start.

The first post has enough information for you to start. I think Ive spent 35mil total for my wiz gears. And 25mil of that is for the triumvirate source.

Good luck.
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Sep 10 2012 06:39pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Sep 10 2012 06:23pm)
50 Mil is plenty to start.

The first post has enough information for you to start. I think Ive spent 35mil total for my wiz gears. And 25mil of that is for the triumvirate source.

Good luck.


Thanks m8.

What is the recommended weapon?

Edit: budget weapon (5-10 mil)

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Quote (Gomunkulus @ 11 Sep 2012 00:41)
it depens if u need apoc , a freezer needs it , tornados heal u with loh and make the crits , but if u are archon and u only use the tornados to reset your archon cd like me, then u can live without it , still its's sometimes a pain in the ass without , i recommend get apoc on 1 item , either offhand or weapon.

Why do u want 2, 7 ll , get 3 ll or , 2,9 , 80 % gets nerfed anyway in inferno thus with 3 % u gain only 0,6 % back. Anyway , you really should try it out first before u make a purchase and it doesnt work for u . Buy a cheap weapon where u dont loose too much dps with ll and try it with your playstyle , if life regaining is low for u , u should think about getting life on hit. But 100 k dps is good enough was my experience, had 105 k dps and 2,9ll. Now i have around twice as much dps and ofc u gain more life , but the enmies die twice faster too , so it's about the same life amount i guess.

My advise , test it yourself


thanks
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Sep 11 2012 12:06pm
Quote (Gomunkulus @ Sep 11 2012 01:27am)
calculated around the same

currently using ice climbers without mov , onyl 12 from lacuni , but i need 24 mov. Question for me was , do i buy zuni trails and buy a zuni chest get the 130 int bonus or do i buy tal armor with ar and nice ice climbers 200 int + 12 mov. Well winner is tal armor with ice climbers , even if the zuni trail got 8 psn and around 180 int . Only if u get a aphysical weap the zuni combo wins , but i won't buy a new weapon for now and those physical ones are pretty rare with sox crti and ll over. Only problem i got now is that there is only trash in the ah , i need a tal armor with 160 vita + 160 int + 50 ar +


if you are reach you can use zuni boots with zuni pox(ring) to get that int bonus. But tri-fecta zuni pox is like almost non existant however you can get good ones with cc or with ais.
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Sep 11 2012 02:20pm
trifecta zuni pox will probably cost 1bil+ when it comes on AH, not really a realistic peice of gear at the moment.

10mil weapon you should aim to get 800 dps, int, socket, base crit, life leech.
Getting 1k dps without ll or socket/base crit isn't worth it.
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