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May 26 2012 05:42pm
Quote (fre4king @ May 26 2012 09:48pm)
life per hit maybe?
i solo'd act 2 too and what really helped me was life per hit


I don't see how you can think that life regeneration in any form would protect you from being 1-hit. That means you die after one hit.

Life per hit is very important, yes. However, you also need 'effective hitpoints' rather than just what D3 reports as your hitpoints. What this means is how much hp you effectively have after resistances and damage reduction are taken into consideration. The community needs to do some testing to see exactly how much these mobs are hitting for. After that we can optimize some stats.

Basically, if you have 10k hp but are able to reduce damage done to you through armor and resists by 75% across the board a mob that usually does 1k damage will only hit you for 250 meaning you have 40k effective hp. It's pretty simple if you think about it like this: originally it would have taken 10 hits to kill you. Now it will take 40 hits. The ratio is 4:1. So, don't look at just your base hp because it's innacurate!

So far there are two camps. Some people are yelling about resists and armor/damage reduction/dodge and others are yelling about life per hit. Guys, you need both and it's a matter of optimizing that balance. Without good data all I will recommend now is that you need enough resists such that the elemental damage that you can't dodge from desecration and lava doesn't kill you faster than you regenerate life from leech and life per hit. Also, you need stats that allow you to out-last control impairing affects. In particular, being frozen.

I am at work now so I will post a build and some numbers later.
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May 26 2012 10:31pm
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act 2 is pretty easy for me, i farm kulle and belial with 5 stacks (if i had the time lol) but the drops so far were really bad


my friend with the 180+ mf is finding some decent drops that he has sold for 2-5m in the AH. I think the stacks + MF is what you need. I mean, we have to think D2. MF is highly important.

You cant farm without MF, you know?

But also, the game has been out for like 11 days. Who knows what kind of shit we will find in Inferno w/tons of MF and 1000s of runs.
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May 27 2012 12:11am
Quote (MakShade @ May 26 2012 05:58pm)
http://i46.tinypic.com/dfyg8.png

Act 1>>easy
Act 2>>Did okey
Act 3 & 4>>impossible to solo.

If someone say something different I want proof!


true..but still can kill bosses at act 3 by solo(die much) but definately not elites...



to monk's expert, what am I lack of?
feeling frustrated, plan to sell my monk & remake a DH :(

This post was edited by usmeng on May 27 2012 12:33am
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May 27 2012 01:15am
you have +39% hp but only 40k hp? I have 42k hp and +16%.. you're lacking vitality for sure... DPS is decent.. res's are stellar
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May 27 2012 01:48am
Quote (InsomniA9 @ May 27 2012 02:15am)
you have +39% hp but only 40k hp? I have 42k hp and +16%.. you're lacking vitality for sure... DPS is decent.. res's are stellar


sacrificed hp for res..
i did manage to get 80k hp with 500 res all... die faster
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May 27 2012 02:14am
This is how I'm doing atm in INFERNO :



I Have this 24% damage aura that is almost always a 48% (3 sec constant rebuff).
Also, with Blzing Wrath and Faith in the Light I get easy 22k damage.

Doing pretty well in inferno act1, but I really need to get better gear.

Main problem is the equips. I'm pretty sure I'll be fine with this build in later levels.

This post was edited by abyssod on May 27 2012 02:16am
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This is how I'm doing atm in INFERNO :

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/4143/screenshot009ks.jpg

I Have this 24% damage aura that is almost always a 48% (3 sec constant rebuff).
Also, with Blzing Wrath and Faith in the Light I get easy 22k damage.

Doing pretty well in inferno act1, but I really need to get better gear.

Main problem is the equips. I'm pretty sure I'll be fine with this build in later levels.


juz try on act 2 onward.. u will know :)
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May 27 2012 02:44am
cant find any life on hit wep without it being insanely OP and low in dps

how am i gona do inferno
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May 27 2012 03:23am
how am i doing, cant seem to kill inferno belail tho

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May 27 2012 04:15am
Quote (WetTile @ May 27 2012 06:31am)
my friend with the 180+ mf is finding some decent drops that he has sold for 2-5m in the AH.  I think the stacks + MF is what you need.  I mean, we have to think D2.  MF is highly important.

You cant farm without MF, you know?

But also, the game has been out for like 11 days.  Who knows what kind of shit we will find in Inferno w/tons of MF and 1000s of runs.


i have 219 mf with mf gear

Quote (Noun @ May 27 2012 11:23am)
how am i doing, cant seem to kill inferno belail tho

http://i49.tinypic.com/uyc8l.jpg


you should be able too, just dodge his attacks

Quote (Noun @ May 27 2012 10:44am)
cant find any life on hit wep without it being insanely OP and low in dps

how am i gona do inferno


rings and amulets, or weapons with sockets

Quote (fft_progressive @ May 27 2012 01:42am)
I don't see how you can think that life regeneration in any form would protect you from being 1-hit.  That means you die after one hit.


i dont think you can die in 1 hit if your res are over 500 and your armor is over 5k
yesterday i played act 2 and forgot to activate my armor mantra (because i was tired) and i still got through lol
and i know about effective hp and effective hp is the only reason why heal and life on hit etc are even viable
e: armor reduces all dmg, not just physical. armor and allres are nearly the same

Quote (abyssod @ May 27 2012 10:14am)
This is how I'm doing atm in INFERNO :

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/4143/screenshot009ks.jpg

I Have this 24% damage aura that is almost always a 48% (3 sec constant rebuff).
Also, with Blzing Wrath and Faith in the Light I get easy 22k damage.

Doing pretty well in inferno act1, but I really need to get better gear.

Main problem is the equips. I'm pretty sure I'll be fine with this build in later levels.

inferno act 2 is not a small step like it was in hell from act 1 to act 2. its rather how it was from hell to inferno

This post was edited by fre4king on May 27 2012 04:24am
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