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Jan 28 2013 06:06pm
Hey guys this is my archon wiz
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mjc-2131/hero/24759062

Got 100m budget for new upgrades help me out :)
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Jan 28 2013 06:08pm
Quote (c1sCo @ Jan 28 2013 09:48pm)
Hi ^^

How do you see that fury?

1235,4 DPS
160 Int
0.23 APS
64% CD
Socket
15,4% Fear

For 950M

I think that its a good wep for this price, what do you think?


Hey, I think it's only really usable in some lame blizzard/hydra builds or maybe arcon build. It might be good for pvp (although like double main stat/vita items might be preferred to main stat/crit items there) , but if I were you I wouldn't buy pvp items now, wait for like 3-4 weeks after the patch. Because otherwise this weapon is only for arcon wiz and for arcon wiz 950 mill weapon is like insanely ridiculous.

Quote (CW_Donner @ Jan 28 2013 10:51pm)
what stats should i aim for when i want to do ubers mp8 +? (cm wiz)


Depends what killing speed are you looking for. I guess you can make half-decent mp8 cm/ww wiz for ~250 millions. 2,74 aps 45 cc 800 loh 4k armor ~850+buffed res might be enough. Use 25+ apoc though.
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Jan 28 2013 06:15pm
Quote (Mad1Lee @ Jan 29 2013 02:08am)
Hey, I think it's only really usable in some lame blizzard/hydra builds or maybe arcon build. It might be good for pvp (although like double main stat/vita items might be preferred to main stat/crit items there) , but if I were you I wouldn't buy pvp items now, wait for like 3-4 weeks after the patch. Because otherwise this weapon is only for arcon wiz and for arcon wiz 950 mill weapon is like insanely ridiculous.


Do you think that the furys will not work in pvp before de patch? why?

This post was edited by c1sCo on Jan 28 2013 06:16pm
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Jan 28 2013 06:19pm
Quote (TickleMeElmo @ Jan 29 2013 04:03am)
Does anyone have a good cm wizard I could look at to help base how I'm building mine?
I'm a bit confused on stuff to be looking for.
Any help would be appreciated, I wanna make something to be able to do mp10.
Thanks. ;o
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with my ehp and loh I can do ~800k effective dps with bubble spec and 1 mill effective dps with meteor shower spec.

Quote (gatkiss37 @ Jan 28 2013 11:57pm)
Im at the point where Im starting to buy endgame pieces for my Cm wiz. Wondering what would be best. Crow+BT pants, or Crow+Innas or crit mempo +BT pants. either of the later 2 and i need high LoH on a ring or ammy. thinking of BT ammy.
also currently using iceclimbers. If im investing a large amount of gold would zuni boots & ring be better? Also if i wanted to drop lacunis when i get zuni boots where should i make up the Asi? Thinking if i go crow+innas then I can drop lacuni's for nice rare bracers. Just not sure what the best setup to invest in endgame pieces would be. Any help?


It depends how fat is your budget for end-game items. I think 9 ias trifecta zuni + all res/armor zuni boots is definetely end game, but some go for godly nat ring + nat boots combo. Both got pros and cons, I am too poor to test. But because trifecta zuni ring is so expensive (we are talking 9 ias 4,5 cc trifecta) I think it's more optimal to go with decent ice climbers - they got amazing defensive stats and can roll really high int. For a helm slot more I play more I am sure that 6cc Storm Crow is like the ultimate end game cm/ww wiz item. 6 cc mempo gives me just 6k damage which is mostly paper dps because my attack speed is already sky high and I am losing 4% to elites bonus which is like 8k damage with 200k dps char. Also for high end cm/ww 27+ apoc is a must, and you can't get apoc anywhere but on this slot. And LoH is so hard to find elsewhere for many reasons.

And dropping lacunis for inna's pants is bad, lacunis can get defensive enough where lose of ehp from switching from BT pants to Inna's is too much. Also losing loh here is bad too.

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Jan 28 2013 06:20pm
Quote (BristolY0 @ Jan 29 2013 12:06am)
Hey guys this is my archon wiz
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mjc-2131/hero/24759062

Got 100m budget for new upgrades help me out :)


spend all of it on a better weapon. your ammy,boots, and offhand will have a Much larger effect on a black damage weapon. int is nice but just get a 900+dps 80+crit ls open socket blackdmg wep. it doesnt have to be a wand.
Quote (Mad1Lee @ Jan 29 2013 12:19am)
with my ehp and loh I can do ~800k effective dps with bubble spec and 1 mill effective dps with meteor shower spec.



It depends how fat is your budget for end-game items. I think 9 ias trifecta zuni + all res/armor zuni boots is definetely end game, but some go for godly nat ring + nat boots combo. Both got pros and cons, I am too poor to test. But because trifecta zuni ring is so expensive (we are talking 9 ias 4,5 cc trifecta) I think it's more optimal to go with decent ice climbers - they got amazing defensive stats and can roll really high int. For a helm slot more I play more I am sure that 6cc Storm Crow is like the ultimate end game cm/ww wiz item. 6 cc mempo gives me just 6k damage which is mostly paper dps because my attack speed is already sky high and I am losing 4% to elites bonus which is like 8k damage with 200k dps char. Also for high end cm/ww 27+ apoc is a must, and you can't get apoc anywhere but on this slot. And LoH is so hard to find elsewhere for many reasons.

And dropping lacunis for inna's pants is bad, lacunis can get defensive enough where lose of ehp from switching from BT pants to Inna's is too much. Also losing loh here is bad too.


would you mind posting your bt?


This post was edited by gatkiss37 on Jan 28 2013 06:21pm
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Jan 28 2013 06:22pm
Quote (Mad1Lee @ Jan 28 2013 08:19pm)
with my ehp and loh I can do ~800k effective dps with bubble spec and 1 mill effective dps with meteor shower spec.



It depends how fat is your budget for end-game items. I think 9 ias trifecta zuni + all res/armor zuni boots is definetely end game, but some go for godly nat ring + nat boots combo. Both got pros and cons, I am too poor to test. But because trifecta zuni ring is so expensive (we are talking 9 ias 4,5 cc trifecta) I think it's more optimal to go with decent ice climbers - they got amazing defensive stats and can roll really high int. For a helm slot more I play more I am sure that 6cc Storm Crow is like the ultimate end game cm/ww wiz item. 6 cc mempo gives me just 6k damage which is mostly paper dps because my attack speed is already sky high and I am losing 4% to elites bonus which is like 8k damage with 200k dps char. Also for high end cm/ww 27+ apoc is a must, and you can't get apoc anywhere but on this slot. And LoH is so hard to find elsewhere for many reasons.

And dropping lacunis for inna's pants is bad, lacunis can get defensive enough where lose of ehp from switching from BT pants to Inna's is too much. Also losing loh here is bad too.


Would it be possible for me to see a link to your wiz?
I'm just trying to find one to base my gear upon to make a wiz. :D
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Jan 28 2013 06:27pm
Quote (c1sCo @ Jan 29 2013 04:15am)
Do you think that the furys will not work in pvp before de patch? why?


I didn't say that. They already work very good cuz of fear proc. But we really don't know if they nerf cc effects or fury fear proc or maybe Chantodo's set would be the best choice cuz of 7% elite reduction (it's 7% straight damage reduction so if you stack it with Litany you get 14% damage reduction which is like super much). So investing 950 mill in a Fury seems stupid and shortsighted at the moment. Unless you just wanna play super expensive solo arcon wizard forever.

Quote (BristolY0 @ Jan 29 2013 04:06am)
Hey guys this is my archon wiz
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mjc-2131/hero/24759062

Got 100m budget for new upgrades help me out :)


everything is bad about this wizard you are not even using scramble rune storm armor because of how little your resists and armor actually are. But worst is your weapon, so if you wanna stick with glass cannon arcon wizard change it to black damage/socket/life steal weapon. 773 dps is just lol 8 months after release.
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Jan 28 2013 06:29pm
Quote (TickleMeElmo @ Jan 29 2013 04:22am)
Would it be possible for me to see a link to your wiz?
I'm just trying to find one to base my gear upon to make a wiz. :D
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http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mad1Lee-2243/hero/195500

upgraded my amulet for cheap so it's not terrible. Trifecta with defensive stats is still hard to find with my budget. Notice that I use 5 offensive skills at the same time + frost nova. Classic shock-nado-shards would use bubble instead of meteor (with bubble i am using next WW breakpoint).
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Jan 28 2013 07:28pm
Quote (Mad1Lee @ Jan 29 2013 02:27am)
I didn't say that. They already work very good cuz of fear proc. But we really don't know if they nerf cc effects or fury fear proc or maybe Chantodo's set would be the best choice cuz of 7% elite reduction (it's 7% straight damage reduction so if you stack it with Litany you get 14% damage reduction which is like super much). So investing 950 mill in a Fury seems stupid and shortsighted at the moment. Unless you just wanna play super expensive solo arcon wizard forever.


I have understand you now. The problem is that the new furys will be nerf for the minmax afix, (i think), and the legacy-without nerf furys will became more expensive :/

I don´t know that i can do :/

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Jan 28 2013 07:40pm
Quote (c1sCo @ Jan 29 2013 05:28am)
I have understand you now. The problem is that the new furys will be nerf for the minmax afix, (i think), and the legacy-without nerf furys will became more expensive :/

I don´t know that i can do :/


they are not nerfing them yet and i am not sure legacy ones will stay intact if they do sometimes. They are planning to buff elemental damage and way how +elemental damage on other items work, think about that too when dumping 1 bill on a wizards fury.

This post was edited by Mad1Lee on Jan 28 2013 07:49pm
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