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Jan 23 2013 05:25pm
Quote (Tanker641 @ Jan 23 2013 06:58pm)
6 Crit storm crows are only going for 75 million when I checked last night. If you have the gear and funds to support the mempo then go for it. If not the 6 Crit storm crow or even a Andy's for archon will do the trick.

I am considering selling all my CM gear and just go archon mode due to the upcoming patch release and how amazing archon is about to become. We have a team that does mp 10 ubers and a replacement CM wouldn't be hard to find.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Tanker641-1242/hero/5255885. <---- archon
My chest needs upgrading and it would give me the funds the I need. I just don't know if I can live with CM... It is pretty fun. Thoughts?


you can try hybrid cm like with meteor or pure meteor. Doesn't require expensive ias stacking as much as classical cm/ww.

Quote (zany_actin @ Jan 23 2013 11:09pm)
hey i need sum upgrade help for my cm wiz im not sure wut to get next...atm i have 272 mil. any help would be appreciated thanks http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/zanyactin-1768/hero/11393729


armor with all res and + armor and witching hour with all res and + armor. That way you can ditch prismatic armor in favour of shocking aspect rune of storm armor, you will gain up to 40% effective dps. Apoc source would be nice too. If you want to reach 3,0 aps 272 mill won't be enough however. But do buy only 9 ias pieces when upgrading.

Quote (Kamikaze_Penguin @ Jan 24 2013 12:52am)
In patch .1.0.7 will I be able skill something like this and be able to mp10? O.o    What kind of gear would I need? O.o  I'd like to note I'm a barb player that's tired of barbs so now I'm here. :D

I really want to find a way to use blizzard in the new patch, I love the skill and the damage buff is amazing.  Seeing as this is the wizard discussion topic, help me out. :D

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#ZlTSji!WXa!cYYcaY

This guy here elaborates on it a bit but I think his gear choices are wrong.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7681548262#7


this is a shitty pathetic build saw it everywhere. Why would you need so many cold spells? You just need blizzard and cold blooded passive, that would be more than enough. Using offensive cold spells doesn't give you any synergy. CM builds are still vastly superior.


Quote (Tanker641 @ Jan 24 2013 12:57am)
A huge upgrade is your paragon lvl. That will give you more stats then any item. So I would suggest investing in a leriocs signet with 30% and a few ubers to get a good hellfire. I ant trying to promote but we do offer free ubers daily on my stream with your machines. Just pm me for details.


don't bs people about "huge upgrade is paragon level". It's not huge it's moderate at best. Also not so subtle stream promotion can have a separate thread.
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Jan 24 2013 12:05am
Mad 1lee..

I understand superior but what if I just want to have fun? :D I just want to be able to farm mp5 efficiently and enjoy my time. Not everything is about blowing everything to pieces instantly.
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Jan 24 2013 03:35am
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this is a shitty pathetic build saw it everywhere. Why would you need so many cold spells? You just need blizzard and cold blooded passive, that would be more than enough. Using offensive cold spells doesn't give you any synergy. CM builds are still vastly superior.



This guy use only cold spells because he uses Frostburn which gives to cold skills up to 30% more damage which is not nothing. Super trifactor gloves can do better yeah but are WAAAY more expensive. And we can at least say that that build is kinda fun/original.
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Jan 24 2013 03:59pm
Quote (Kamikaze_Penguin @ Jan 24 2013 10:05am)
Mad 1lee..

I understand superior but what if I just want to have fun?  :D  I just want to be able to farm mp5 efficiently and enjoy my time.  Not everything is about blowing everything to pieces instantly.


Might be fun, but still almost no Synergy there. For me fun would something like Meteor Shower + Blizzard with both cold blooded + conflagation as passives. Using all possible spells is needless overkill, you got to be more creative than that.

Quote (NingJing @ Jan 24 2013 01:35pm)
This guy use only cold spells because he uses Frostburn which gives to cold skills up to 30% more damage which is not nothing. Super trifactor gloves can do better yeah but are WAAAY more expensive. And we can at least say that that build is kinda fun/original.


Actually tri-fecta gloves are not so expensive right now. And with Frostburns you are losing a lot of utility by missing 6-10 critical chance which can up procs from cm a lot.
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Jan 24 2013 10:09pm
experimented with meteor build. So far it's worse then classical cm/ww. Even with 27 apoc casting meteors depletes ap to zero and it interrupts casting wicked winds and novas. Tried it instead of explosive blast. Tried liquefy and molten impact. Liquefy works better but got really ugly animation (why is it blue?). Does anyone here tested proper meteor build that works?
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Jan 24 2013 11:26pm
You can get -5 meteor cost from source, mara, skull grasp, soj and probably rare wizard. That's up to 25 reduction. But I don't think anyone has the gears to test that.
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Jan 25 2013 07:34am
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You can get -5 meteor cost from  source, mara, skull grasp, soj and probably rare wizard. That's up to 25 reduction. But I don't think anyone has the gears to test that.


unless it's 15+ reduction it won't matter.

So I did some testing with meteor build and got some results. Here is me http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mad1Lee-2243/hero/195500, note that I reach 3,003 aps due to Time Stretch (which is next wicked wind breakpoint). All I did with skills is I changed Slow Time - Time Stretch to different meteor spells and evocation to conflagation. Results were a bit disappointing. Molten Impact had the worst e-dps despite additional proc from molten, it's less effective dps than with bubble instead of meteor also my wizard became very squishy due freeze lock interruptions and additional reflected damage. Also Slow Time reduces enemies damage, it's not much but still something. Liquefy did better, same e-dps as with bubble, however I died to azmodan once. (did all testing in core of arreat mp5 and mainly versus azmodan). Best e-dps turned out to be Meteor Shower - it procs like crazy and fills ap pretty quickly. With meteor shower my e-dps has grown from 720k to 780k ~ 9% increase. However I still need some more testing. For now I can say that 9% e-dps increase is not worth it as you are losing a lot of survivability without bubble. In my case I lose ww breakpoint as well so no more smooth perma-freeze and no more 10ias increase for party members.

This post was edited by Mad1Lee on Jan 25 2013 07:35am
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Jan 26 2013 12:05am
May someone help me out please?
i really dont know what to update..

http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Ken-2512/hero/24424789

budget around 200-250m
i really want 200k dps+ with leorics :/
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Jan 26 2013 12:27am
Quote (PimPMyNecRo @ Jan 26 2013 10:05am)
May someone help me out please?
i really dont know what to update..

http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Ken-2512/hero/24424789

budget around 200-250m
i really want 200k dps+ with leorics :/


I suggest that you and all people who invested in arcon gear should really sell it fast. Because with new buffs to experience gain at higher mp's arconing mp1 is not gonna be most effective way of farming and leveling. All those overpriced overhyped leorics gonna lose value very soon. Because higher mps give much better xp boosts in 1.07 and leoric is a letdown gear slot, absolutely useless. Well, I knew from the start that high end arcon gear will lose it's value with time a lot.

Make a cm/ww wizard, or think about pvp gear. Your gear sucks balls, man. First thing that you should sell is life leech fury. Imo, all wizard's weapons with life leech gonna be useless after mp buffs, because only viable build for higher mp and group play is cm/ww and he utilizes loh and not life steal (loh is rumoured to be semi-useful in pvp too)
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Jan 26 2013 12:33am
so this http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mad1Lee-2243/hero/195500 build turns out to be more effective than SNS with bubble. In fact I think it's the most effective pvm build in the game if we are considering group play and higher mps. With correct timing of meteor casting (it interrupts wicked wind and nova casting, you should remember that) it's absolutely destroying everything. With 134k paper dps my effective dps went from 730k (SNS with bubble to reach 3,003 aps wicked wind breakpoint) to 1 mill. Although it requires 25+ apoc (30 is better) and a lot of defence as well as 800+loh (I would consider 1000 loh would be optimal). If anyone got high end in terms of aps/cc and defence cm/ww gear (like me), I dare you to try it. Might even make a video.
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