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Nov 22 2012 01:10pm
Quote (ae1337 @ Nov 22 2012 07:52pm)
By not using soj you are losing tons of real dps.



vs elite only so no ofc . soj is good for ubers run but for farm u kill a lot of white mobs . i have a good rare ring + zuni pox . so if i put soj instead of my rare => i lose 30+ k dps ( i also lose protection stats vita attack speed cc ...)! is this worth the 30 % elite ? for ubers ok but for farming the xp + legendaries it s not that good .

This post was edited by Aristus on Nov 22 2012 01:11pm
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Nov 22 2012 01:30pm
i find elites slowing you down during farming much more than some % less damage vs trash
it only can be ok if you use some really weak but powerful aoe vs trash, that every bit of dps counts, like locust swarm, and bears vs elites for example
but for vast majority of builds trash dies equally fast since you outdps it so much, while elites make you stop for these 10s for example, while with soj it gets faster
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Nov 22 2012 06:17pm
Quote (ae1337 @ Nov 22 2012 07:30pm)
i find elites slowing you down during farming much more than some % less damage vs trash
it only can be ok if you use some really weak but powerful aoe vs trash, that every bit of dps counts, like locust swarm, and bears vs elites for example
but for vast majority of builds trash dies equally fast since you outdps it so much, while elites make you stop for these 10s for example, while with soj it gets faster


Try mass confuse (50% chance to raise zombie dogs rune) I spirit walk in, confuse them to keep them still then Z-bears them to death. Stacked up they die so quickly + you get free Z-dogs

Can also use 20% damage taken rune but I prefer Z-dogs to clear any lingering mobs I miss
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Nov 22 2012 06:21pm
Quote (ae1337 @ Nov 22 2012 05:52pm)
By not using soj you are losing tons of real dps.


No. No you aren't.

Using SOJ costs me a ton of dps (around 10%) + I lose zuni set bonus so 20 mana per second and 10 mana per kill (INSANE for paragon runs) I lose 0.9% prot + 55 all res from set bonus and a few thousand HP.

That or lose hellfire ring and lose around 12% dps + 8k HP and 0.8 prot oh and 35% xp.

All to kill champs in 4 zmobie bears instead of 5?

SOJ has it's place, it's a very good ring. it's place, however, is not anywhere and everywhere.

It's mostly good for key farming and ubers - or for barbs who want to slow people.
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Nov 22 2012 06:31pm
Quote (IIFOXII @ Nov 22 2012 04:21pm)
No.  No you aren't.

Using SOJ costs me a ton of dps (around 10%) + I lose zuni set bonus so 20 mana per second and 10 mana per kill (INSANE for paragon runs) I lose 0.9% prot + 55 all res from set bonus and a few thousand HP.

That or lose hellfire ring and lose around 12% dps + 8k HP and 0.8 prot oh and 35% xp.

All to kill champs in 4 zmobie bears instead of 5?

SOJ has it's place, it's a very good ring.  it's place, however, is not anywhere and everywhere.

It's mostly good for key farming and ubers - or for barbs who want to slow people.


Yeah, I agree. I only soj for ubers. Also, it's great for combating the annoyance of fear on echoing fury.
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Nov 22 2012 10:03pm
Quote (IIFOXII @ Nov 23 2012 10:21am)
Using SOJ costs me a ton of dps (around 10%) + I lose zuni set bonus so 20 mana per second and 10 mana per kill (INSANE for paragon runs) I lose 0.9% prot + 55 all res from set bonus and a few thousand HP.



I use a charger SoJ for farming sometimes - I switch out the hellfire for the SoJ whenever I run into tough elites. Most of the time I keep the hellfire though. Switching takes me from 144k dps to 130k dps, but that's 169k dps vs elites and cheaper bears, so it's worth it for tough packs or kiters.
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Nov 22 2012 10:42pm
I don't understand why I get hurt so easy, considering I have 800-900 resists across the board. The only problem I can see is my armor is low 3500. Sounds dumb I guess but I would have though having such high resists would cover up low armor.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Pandora-1830/hero/806563

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Nov 22 2012 10:47pm
Quote (LumpyDough @ Nov 23 2012 07:42am)
I don't understand why I get hurt so easy, considering I have 800-900 resists across the board. The only problem I can see is my armor is low 3500. Sounds dumb I guess but I would have though having such high resists would cover up low armor.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Pandora-1830/hero/806563


ur life is low :/
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Nov 22 2012 10:49pm
Quote (Grandy @ Nov 22 2012 11:47pm)
ur life is low :/


What should I be aiming for? 50k? I try to get Int/Vit/All res on almost everything. But Im not that rich, and people want crazy prices for some items.
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Nov 22 2012 11:43pm
Does anyone have suggestions on what I should upgrade next?

BNet profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sakrai-1282/hero/5219797

Diablo Progress: http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/sakrai-1282/Homeskillet/5219797

I'm striving for a balance between offense and defense but that gets expensive very easy.

Oh, and if anyone have any new builds or whatever please post them.

Honestly, I'm so tired of the game that I haven't played much at all, just log in, check ah for 10 minutes, see that I can't afford shit anymore and log out.


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