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Nov 18 2012 08:53pm
Quote (Mouchi @ Nov 19 2012 02:41am)
I just found a pretty nice IK belt I sold for a decent sum so I'm on the fence again about going 1h + mojo or upgrading my skorn. Currently playing bears/AC for low mps and bears/widow for higher. What I'm wondering is how do so many of you guys handle reflect with such little life steal? To help with the "slowness" of skorn I've started to grab a little ias in places I can, and think if I stick with that route I may try using Innas even though it's an incredible stat loss. With my current gear setup: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mouchi-1474/hero/7974904 it seems like I may end up losing out on damage if I swap to 1h + OH (unless I can find a really good black weapon that rivals a top Manajuma). Being at a cross roads I'm hoping that maybe someone with a bit more knowledge who's maybe tried both can voice their opinion on the matter. As for stacking more ias, I know it's really not a true damage increase for a WD, but the casting annimations on Cloud and bears absolutely kill the class for me sometimes. Thanks!


My experiance is that Skorn doesn't compete with a fast wep + mojo. I have 1.9 APS and a mojo with other + damage gear seems to blow Skorn out of the water. The fact that you miss 8-10% crit, a large damage roll and mana regen + other stats from mojo means for me, skorn would have to do a LOT more dps for it to be worth it.

Then again this is using a 1250 dps wep witha socket, (1.55 base APS) so might be different if the 1hander you are going for has lower dps
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Nov 18 2012 10:12pm
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Framboise-1280/hero/14862795

what should be upgraded next?

thinking about getting a 200ish vit zuni chest... what do you think?
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Nov 19 2012 12:25am
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Have a zuni chest, just hasnt updated yet. Im just doing fast Mp1 runs have no problems at all, just wondering what is a good skill to replace either Gargantuan or zombie dogs. Dont really need both at this point. I was thinking maybe Horrify with Stalker just to increase speed.

This post was edited by LumpyDough on Nov 19 2012 12:32am
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Nov 19 2012 12:42am
Give me good HARDCORE setup i should try to aim. im going to say it right now BEARS not an option! passives must be grave injustice, spirit vessel , jungle thingy -15% dmg
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Nov 19 2012 05:13am
Quote (Tanc @ Nov 18 2012 05:46pm)

Actually, you can legitimately build a witch doctor like that. If you have over 300k dps and use ghost bomb with flash fire over acid rain when farming paragon 0/1/2, you'll be clearing shit a lot faster. Then take bears for elites, at 300k unbuffed dps, 1-2 bears is all you really need.


How ghost bomb will be better than acid rain?
Casting 1 ghost bomb takes exactly same amount of time as casting acid rain.
Except you are doing 8y 110% damage with ghost bomb and 24 yards of 115% with acid rain.
And 30% damage aoe if doesn't crit needs multiple shots with ghost bomb to kill some trash at mp1 anyway.
I tested it quite a lot, and really I don't see how ghost bomb can be better, it is about same skill, just weaker.
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Nov 19 2012 08:29am
Quote (ae1337 @ Nov 19 2012 11:13am)
How ghost bomb will be better than acid rain?
Casting 1 ghost bomb takes exactly same amount of time as casting acid rain.
Except you are doing 8y 110% damage with ghost bomb and 24 yards of 115% with acid rain.
And 30% damage aoe if doesn't crit needs multiple shots with ghost bomb to kill some trash at mp1 anyway.
I tested it quite a lot, and really I don't see how ghost bomb can be better, it is about same skill, just weaker.


Ghost bomb , is mana free , and most of the guys on the top of progress , aint geared to nuttin but speed runs , lol
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Nov 19 2012 09:20am
Quote (ae1337 @ Nov 19 2012 04:13am)
How ghost bomb will be better than acid rain?
Casting 1 ghost bomb takes exactly same amount of time as casting acid rain.
Except you are doing 8y 110% damage with ghost bomb and 24 yards of 115% with acid rain.
And 30% damage aoe if doesn't crit needs multiple shots with ghost bomb to kill some trash at mp1 anyway.
I tested it quite a lot, and really I don't see how ghost bomb can be better, it is about same skill, just weaker.


Well, it won't be a lot faster, I may have exaggerated a bit. But it holds up to the standard mana regen build. They have more attack speed and less mana regen, so you will actually be able to use about 2 ghost bombs before acid rain will go down, and at over 300k dps everything at mp0/1 should die from 1 hit, so chuck 2 ghost bombs out and you are doing what acid rain does, except that you don't have to aim it. Not having to aim it really cuts your timing down, just throwing shit randomly as you run. Also, another important thing is that with 300k dps your zombie bears are going to kill elites so much faster, despite going oom. They'll die, you get health globes and get your mana back.

Overall, if you have the best of the best gear, I think going the pure dps build will yield slightly better results, although that's mostly speculation because I don't know anyone who has good enough gear with both mana regen build and the pure dps build to test it further.

Either way, I'd say if you want to build like a retard and go pure dps, it won't be the end of the world for farming lower mp's.
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Nov 19 2012 09:24am
Quote (IIFOXII @ Nov 18 2012 05:45pm)
By far the best build I've seen for speed clearing ML0/1 is the speed doctor build someone posted up a while ago

It only cost me around 15-20mil to gear well enough to 1 shot most mobs and the speed is just amazing.  I run with a WW barb friend and he is the one who struggles to keep up with me!

skills:
Acid rain
Z-bears
spirit walk (jaunt)
soul harvest (60 sec rune)
gargantuan (big stinker - far FAR better than restless giant for this build)
Fear (20% move speed rune)

I forgot the apssives

Only other requirement is 4 peice zunimis and the offhand with 20 yard pickup radius.  Chest costs like 7mil boots 1-2mil and the rest of the set is under 100k for the lot.

Basically you use acid rain to clear white mobs and Z-bears for hard mobs/champs.  You don't run OOM becasue you kill so fast and gain so much mana back from each kill (passive + zunimi set bonus)

You can use spirit walk and fear (20% move speed) between just about every pack since you get -1 sec CD per kill from passive and each kill gives you HP

Since you have 20 yard pickup radius you get HUGE gold farm from this too and you pickup all the health globes from a mile away so never worry about HP and mana


You're mostly right, but you don't need gargantuan, things dead useless. Get hex with angry chicken, extra 15% move speed, also get vengeful spirit over the other rune for soul harvest. Angry chicken and vengeful spirit both don't stop you when you cast them, which is so huge. They also do decent damage.


And you take spirit walk, gruesome feast, and grave injustice for passives.

If you're not geared enough for this or you go oom, you can just take ghost bomb instead of acid rain, it will be a bit slower unless you build for just pure dps, but it's still good.

Edit: yeah, I double posted. Deal with it.

This post was edited by Tanc on Nov 19 2012 09:25am
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Nov 19 2012 09:31am
anyone in eu server that could help me pick up some cheap gear ? add me benskishow#2282, thanks
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Nov 19 2012 12:32pm
Hi Everyone -

I've been playing around with my new WD and I am loving it! I decided to re-roll from Barb (PL91) to WD(now at PL28) since Barbs are too mainstream and I think WD is underrated. :banana:

I am getting almost the same XP gain per hour with my WD in comparison to my WW Barb at MP1. I need your help on how can I improve my playstyle in dealing with Uberbosses at MP7 and higher.

What are the recommended skills and passives in doing uberbosses?

Check out my profile:
www.diabloprogress.com/hero/andrea-6264/Bashang/23259811

Thanks in advance! :santa:
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