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Nov 18 2012 11:37am
Quote (ChingeR @ Nov 18 2012 05:27pm)
big guy answer his own questions like a teacher teaching out chemistry B)

I guess,
acid cloud - acid rain
plague of toads - rain of toads shiets
gargantuan - restless giant
spiritwalk-jaunt
soul harvest - any rune you wish
whatever last spell you want.

With this build you'll aoe as hell and deal loads of dmg ;)

be sure to wear lifesteal and 24% movementspeed


That is exactly what I run but poison dart multi shot over rain of toads. It deals more damage for me.
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Nov 18 2012 11:40am
Quote (heyyous @ 18 Nov 2012 18:37)
That is exactly what I run but poison dart multi shot over rain of toads. It deals more damage for me.


when i farm keys plague of toads is better, you can shoot over waller walls
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Nov 18 2012 11:42am
Quote (ChingeR @ Nov 18 2012 05:40pm)
when i farm keys plague of toads is better, you can shoot over waller walls


Ah that is true. I have no idea why darts seem to work better for me. I was using rain of toads before them though.
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Nov 18 2012 11:46am
Quote (ae1337 @ Nov 18 2012 04:44am)
It is fine, as long as you use proper gear.
Don't use noob tal armor and mempo/andy visage. Also always use 1 slot for soj.
This is cheapest shit people do with wd, they stack ias on all slot, 0 mana regen, god forbid soj (to lose 30-40k screen dps oh no!). And they they brag they hit 300k unbuffed. Bears drain their mana in 2s, and they can just throw fucking darts with all their dps. Terrible balance of character, where effective damage is crap.
It isn't easy to hit 2 attacks per second if you use proper wd mana regen gears, not cheap ias shit.


Actually, you can legitimately build a witch doctor like that. If you have over 300k dps and use ghost bomb with flash fire over acid rain when farming paragon 0/1/2, you'll be clearing shit a lot faster. Then take bears for elites, at 300k unbuffed dps, 1-2 bears is all you really need.
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Nov 18 2012 06:26pm
I dont understand bears. I feel like Im missing all the time. Even when I stand on top of mobs.
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Nov 18 2012 06:45pm
Quote (awwcraig @ Nov 18 2012 05:00pm)
Whats the best build for paragon leveling?


By far the best build I've seen for speed clearing ML0/1 is the speed doctor build someone posted up a while ago

It only cost me around 15-20mil to gear well enough to 1 shot most mobs and the speed is just amazing. I run with a WW barb friend and he is the one who struggles to keep up with me!

skills:
Acid rain
Z-bears
spirit walk (jaunt)
soul harvest (60 sec rune)
gargantuan (big stinker - far FAR better than restless giant for this build)
Fear (20% move speed rune)

I forgot the apssives

Only other requirement is 4 peice zunimis and the offhand with 20 yard pickup radius. Chest costs like 7mil boots 1-2mil and the rest of the set is under 100k for the lot.

Basically you use acid rain to clear white mobs and Z-bears for hard mobs/champs. You don't run OOM becasue you kill so fast and gain so much mana back from each kill (passive + zunimi set bonus)

You can use spirit walk and fear (20% move speed) between just about every pack since you get -1 sec CD per kill from passive and each kill gives you HP

Since you have 20 yard pickup radius you get HUGE gold farm from this too and you pickup all the health globes from a mile away so never worry about HP and mana
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Nov 18 2012 06:48pm
Also as far as gearing goes you kinda need to make a choice: Fast ASI and stack mana regen and +average damage gear (which becomes increadibly powerful once your APS is high)
Or go slow speed and stack crit damage/crit with either a Skorn (not recomended) or a slower 1hander

Don't stack ASI and expect to be able to perma bear spam... If you want ASi then you really should get 4 peice zun for the mana and mana regen on at least head/mojo.
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Nov 18 2012 06:49pm
Quote (IIFOXII @ Nov 19 2012 12:45am)
By far the best build I've seen for speed clearing ML0/1 is the speed doctor build someone posted up a while ago

It only cost me around 15-20mil to gear well enough to 1 shot most mobs and the speed is just amazing. I run with a WW barb friend and he is the one who struggles to keep up with me!

skills:
Acid rain
Z-bears
spirit walk (jaunt)
soul harvest (60 sec rune)
gargantuan (big stinker - far FAR better than restless giant for this build)
Fear (20% move speed rune)

I forgot the apssives

Only other requirement is 4 peice zunimis and the offhand with 20 yard pickup radius. Chest costs like 7mil boots 1-2mil and the rest of the set is under 100k for the lot.

Basically you use acid rain to clear white mobs and Z-bears for hard mobs/champs. You don't run OOM becasue you kill so fast and gain so much mana back from each kill (passive + zunimi set bonus)

You can use spirit walk and fear (20% move speed) between just about every pack since you get -1 sec CD per kill from passive and each kill gives you HP

Since you have 20 yard pickup radius you get HUGE gold farm from this too and you pickup all the health globes from a mile away so never worry about HP and mana


Barb cannot keep up because you are killing to fast for him to gain fury.
They do not play well with others unless high mp.
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Nov 18 2012 06:52pm
Quote (heyyous @ Nov 19 2012 12:49am)
Barb cannot keep up because you are killing to fast for him to gain fury.
They do not play well with others unless high mp.


Yeah, my point being it's pretty impressive that a WD can keep a similar pace to a WW barb lol. 70% move speed on a very short CD is really powerful - + with your pickup radius you get shtloads of gold from drops alone, far more than my barb ever did.
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Nov 18 2012 08:41pm
I just found a pretty nice IK belt I sold for a decent sum so I'm on the fence again about going 1h + mojo or upgrading my skorn. Currently playing bears/AC for low mps and bears/widow for higher. What I'm wondering is how do so many of you guys handle reflect with such little life steal? To help with the "slowness" of skorn I've started to grab a little ias in places I can, and think if I stick with that route I may try using Innas even though it's an incredible stat loss. With my current gear setup: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mouchi-1474/hero/7974904 it seems like I may end up losing out on damage if I swap to 1h + OH (unless I can find a really good black weapon that rivals a top Manajuma). Being at a cross roads I'm hoping that maybe someone with a bit more knowledge who's maybe tried both can voice their opinion on the matter. As for stacking more ias, I know it's really not a true damage increase for a WD, but the casting annimations on Cloud and bears absolutely kill the class for me sometimes. Thanks!
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