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Jan 6 2013 10:50pm
Quote (Mad1Lee @ Jan 4 2013 10:38pm)
zuni with AR and Armor when with Godly zuni's ring, nat's when with godly nat's ring. Without those rings ice climbers, but ice climbers are expensive, I wear Fire Walkers. They are very cheap and have huge defensive stats.


best nat
100 int, 100 vit, 200 dex, 80 ar, 620 armor, reduction by 6%

best nat ring
89 dex, 9/6/50, 234 regen, avg dmg

bonus: 7% cc

best zuni pox
89 int, 70 ar, 9/6/34, avg dmg

best zuni trail
8% poison, 200 int, 100 vit, 80 ar, 620 armor

bonus: 130 int

so we have

Nat: 100 int, 100 vit, 289 dex, 80 ar, 620 armor, 6% reduction, 9/13/50, 234 regen, avg dmg

Zuni: 419 int, 150 ar, 9/6/34, avg dmg, 8% poison, 100 vit, 620 armor

after cancelling each other out:

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Nat: 289 dex, 6% melee reduction, 7% cc, 16% cd, 234 regen
Zuni: 319 int, 70 ar, 8% poison
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which one's the ultimate set?


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Jan 6 2013 11:05pm
Zuni set is better if you got high cc already and it's definitely cheaper. You get more vita and more all res too, that's very important for cm wizz. Sure, you get bit more utility from extra critical chance, but after 55 cc it won't make real difference, however, extra 70 res and extra life will. Theorycrafting here, because both sets are extremely expensive and obviously there are just few elitists who could test them both. But really, even if extra cc somehow outweighs all benefits of zuni's set, trifecta nat rings is like 3 times more expensive than trifecta zunimassa's pox.

This post was edited by Mad1Lee on Jan 6 2013 11:05pm
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sorry, mate, looks like you've wasted 200 millions right there. You can make similar arcon wizard for mere 20 millions.
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Jan 7 2013 10:58am
nice guide
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Quote (Mad1Lee @ Jan 7 2013 05:08pm)
sorry, mate, looks like you've wasted 200 millions right there. You can make similar arcon wizard for mere 20 millions.


pretty much this ^^
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sniped this for 100 mill, what you guys think? Trying to flip it now (http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65996701&f=176 if anyone is interested).
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Jan 9 2013 03:46pm
Yo guys just recently geared up a CM wiz to see what they are like

After some theory crafting I have concluded a few things just want to see if I am on the right track

Pretty much 2.5 APS is the minimum.. but I really want 2.73 APS (I think 3.0 is just too much, maybe if I had 20 bill gold..)

19 or 20 APoC works just fine and anything more is overkill

Life on hit - around 700-750 is just fine I think? (And only way to get it is rings/ammy? since I want to use mempo for IAS)

Chantodos set is a pretty much must for high end CM? Since I think I want to use a mempo helm my weapon needs APoC so chants wep is perfect for that.. and IAS and APoC on the source so thats all good

my only issue is .. the average damage on chants wand is pretty bad (and its not black damage) and only 100% crit dmg possible making for some low crits .. any other possible better weapon? (keeping in mind I need at least 2 APoC items)

I looked up some IAS daggers, im thinking a nice rolled dagger would beat out a chants since they can have up to 100% more crit hit damage and life on hit.. but then you need APoC from helm..and you lose 2 set chants bonus

and last, for the skill slot that you can play around with, if not using slow time (doesnt bump me up to 3.0 from 2.73 so useless) and not using teleport.. whats best here? magic weapon? familiar? hydra even?

thanks to whoever helps me out :)

oh and - how do you get armor? I tried using storm armor shocking aspect in mp3 for more damage but I was killing myself from reflect and just taking too much damage without energy armor on... do I need more loh or what? (I had around 750-800)

This post was edited by Tboner on Jan 9 2013 03:50pm
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Yo guys just recently geared up a CM wiz to see what they are like

After some theory crafting I have concluded a few things just want to see if I am on the right track

Pretty much 2.5 APS is the minimum.. but I really want 2.73 APS (I think 3.0 is just too much, maybe if I had 20 bill gold..) yes, but 3,00 is nice too, not rly too much, but anyway 2,73 is the way to go at least

19 or 20 APoC works just fine and anything more is overkill yes

Life on hit - around 700-750 is just fine I think? (And only way to get it is rings/ammy? since I want to use mempo for IAS) yes, at least, i'd rather strive for ~1000, remember blackthorne pants, which is best for cm imo anyway

Chantodos set is a pretty much must for high end CM? Since I think I want to use a mempo helm my weapon needs APoC so chants wep is perfect for that.. and IAS and APoC on the source so thats all good

my only issue is .. the average damage on chants wand is pretty bad (and its not black damage) and only 100% crit dmg possible making for some low crits .. any other possible better weapon? (keeping in mind I need at least 2 APoC items) chants set best, period.

I looked up some IAS daggers, im thinking a nice rolled dagger would beat out a chants since they can have up to 100% more crit hit damage and life on hit.. but then you need APoC from helm..and you lose 2 set chants bonus If you find a dagger beating that, lmk^^

and last, for the skill slot that you can play around with, if not using slow time (doesnt bump me up to 3.0 from 2.73 so useless) and not using teleport.. whats best here? magic weapon? familiar? hydra even? options are 1 sort of bubble (ias/dmg), magic weapon, teleport, but imo best is meteor molten impact+conflag as passive for more dps output

thanks to whoever helps me out :)

oh and - how do you get armor? I tried using storm armor shocking aspect in mp3 for more damage but I was killing myself from reflect and just taking too much damage without energy armor on... do I need more loh or what? (I had around 750-800) since u dont get armor buff your armory should bring enough basedef, but getting even 4k is tough imo, not priority though. Resists should be at 700++, and stacking more phys res is nice also vs reflect.


helped?

€: just checked ur armory profile. imo life is too low atm as well. ofc u stun everything most of the time, but you need to be able to take enough burst dmg in my opinion and experience

This post was edited by Mesmerise on Jan 9 2013 05:10pm
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Jan 9 2013 05:16pm
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helped?

€: just checked ur armory profile. imo life is too low atm as well. ofc u stun everything most of the time, but you need to be able to take enough burst dmg in my opinion and experience


yes very much ty! i like the meteor idea ill be trying that

and yea my life is low.. im workin on that :P ill check out some blackthorne pants but I was going to use innas since its a nice way to get IAS.. dont really want to use tal armor and lose the set bonus until I can get a nice zuni pox, plus a nice tal armor is very expensive..

This post was edited by Tboner on Jan 9 2013 05:17pm
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