tyvm

edit: armor is unbuffed, add a 20% from mantra btw cant change to deadly reach... the massive KB effect (stunlock) of WoHF is way better thank being forced to kite/range attack stuff

This post was edited by Shirl86 on Jul 3 2012 07:07am

I wanna say, that with High DPS, you dont need LoH, due to you kill all mobs very ez, although if you can afford a stuff +40k DPS with +1k LoH, obvious that is better that a stuff without LoH

LoH gives u survivability, not dmg... so things "are not related" if u can survive (because u kill faster) without loh, focus on something else... but if u feel u risk to die anyway stick with loh even with 40k dps

Yep.. but for example.. a fist 1k DPS Critic and LoH... it costs... 200kk xD

up to you man... if YOU feel that you NEED it... cant help much

Every monk I've seen swears by LOH. That's not to say that it isn't viable, because it is. The problem people run into is that it's ultra expensive and one of the most sought after stats on a weapon. There are downsides to it though. It only works on your primary damage skill. For a monk, that can either be FoT, WotHF, or Crippling Wave. It does not proc on anything else. For me, a dodge/crit/aoe monk, that's a big deal. It is for that reason, I've decided to pursue other regen alternatives. Right now, my monk does around 22K DPS. He has 500 LOH, 500 LPS, and 3% LL. I've decided to use these numbers as an experiment in viability. It cost me a little dab of gold, but I wanted to see if it was viable to use AOE and LL together. It is.

A quick note: this test is highly subjective, as there isn't completely concrete data (quantitative) to support my theory. I'm only using what's available to me.

My backlash procs @ 10-12k per target. My sweeping wind 3-stack procs @ 7-10k per target. (10,000 * .03) * .2 = 60 life per proc, per target on backlash. (7,000 * .03) * .2 = 42 life per proc, per target on sweeping wind. My playstyle involves dashing strike into a huge group, then using FoT + Lightning to build my sweeping wind stack / additional dodge. The damage procs are pretty consistent and has involved me frapsing my runs and slow-motioning the vids to actually watch the ticks and life meter correlate. Not an easy process. Involved a lot of trial and error. Backlash does proc quite a bit with 70% dodge.

If I increase LL to 6%, the amount of life per proc, per target doubles. If I get to my goal of 50K DPS and 6% LL, I think my regen will be pretty solid. I'm ultimately trying to find a balance between LPS, LL, and LOH, instead of huge LOH only.

Skills Used:
Fot + Dodge
Dashing Strike + Dodge
BoH + Damage
Serenity + Duration
Sweeping Wind + Blade Storm
MoE + Dodge

Hope this data serves some purpose. If not, back to the drawing board

My advice for everyone looking to upgrade lately... wait.
The price of things are dropping like giant 10 ton boulders.

Gold price is getting inflated still, but due to the drop % patch, supply is skyrocketing.
Wait another week or two, and prices for your upgrades will have dropped substantially.

dear all, would like to say hello. hope everyone is having a nice day while waiting for server to be up.

i have a few burning queries i would like to post but not without having access to my character, guess i'll be back in a while.

LoH is so overpriced....
I got 2x Fists with 50+ life per spirit spent and if I have a choice I gear for life per sec.
My hat has life per spirit too.
bonuses, life per sec works while your frozen.
life per spirit spent works while kiting back and setting up next choke point.
IT IS WAY FUCKING CHEAPER!

It is. But I haven't found a good DPS fist with that much LPSS on each. I tried a LPSS build a while back, and if you can get to around 150 - 200 total LPSS including Transcendence, I see it becoming very viable. In fact, the only problem I see would be spirit regeneration. I think life per second along with life leech are going to be good values to get for dual wielders with high damage, and it may be a viable alternative to LOH.