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Dec 9 2012 11:46am
Quote (Papichulo @ Dec 9 2012 10:57am)
Hey Tboner,

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Papichulo-1305/hero/28320688

I know I'm quite far behind. I managed to sell a unid VW for 10M so I got 12M+ to spend for now. Which part would you focus on upgrading?

I run mp2 OK but have difficulty keeping Wotb. Mp3 takes more time as I die more often.


Is difficulty to keep wotb at low mp like Tboner said.
You die more when you at mp 3, vit run out faster than your hit or?
Got some attack speed items see if you can improve abit.
I'll change a faster OH with100+ str 100+vit and Ls (IMO )

This post was edited by lansi on Dec 9 2012 11:47am
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Dec 9 2012 11:54am
Quote (Tboner @ Dec 8 2012 06:19pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXVyeiG4QB4

Some gameplay footage :)

sry bout bad quality but gets the point across..


Damn nice man
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Quote (Papichulo @ Dec 9 2012 08:57am)
Hey Tboner,

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Papichulo-1305/hero/28320688

I know I'm quite far behind. I managed to sell a unid VW for 10M so I got 12M+ to spend for now. Which part would you focus on upgrading?

I run mp2 OK but have difficulty keeping Wotb. Mp3 takes more time as I die more often.


keeping up wotb is all about crit chance / ias

just quickly looking @ your gear I see you need quite a bit more ias and things should be a lot better for you
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Dec 10 2012 11:51am
Hey Tboner - thanks for the previous help. Here's where I am now, and I'm breezing through Alkaizer runs on MP0.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/moogleslam-1716/hero/12479003

I'm basically outta gold again, though do have a bunch of stuff listed in the AH. When I get some gold again, what should I focus on next? What's my weakest piece?

Thanks

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Quote (moogleslam @ Dec 10 2012 10:51am)
Hey Tboner - thanks for the previous help.  Here's where I am now, and I'm breezing through Alkaizer runs on MP0. 

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/moogleslam-1716/hero/12479003

I'm basically outta gold again, though do have a bunch of stuff listed in the AH.  When I get some gold again, what should I focus on next?  What's my weakest piece?

Thanks


I try not to be mean saying this but try to learn the build the best you can so that you can figure out what upgrades to get yourself

quickly looking id say get a high cc/chd ammy.. no need for ias on ammy unless you have a high high budget
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Dec 11 2012 09:30am
Quote (Tboner @ 10 Dec 2012 19:56)
I try not to be mean saying this but try to learn the build the best you can so that you can figure out what upgrades to get yourself

quickly looking id say get a high cc/chd ammy.. no need for ias on ammy unless you have a high high budget


I think I’ve got a pretty good handle on the build now as I’ve been playing it for a while. The only real weakness seems to be the Molten mod – that gets my life going down pretty fast sometimes, but then I just switch to WotB to finish off the pack faster, and that tends to keep me alive. I could certainly work on my resists though.

Only other thing is I seem to have a slightly hard time generating fury on regular monsters if it’s not a super dense pack. I could get as much as 10% more crit chance from an amulet (though I think I’m already around 50%), but maybe the solution is that I try a higher monster power, so that my tornadoes are hitting something for longer? …. Or would that make my runs less efficient?

So let’s say I get an amulet with CHC instead of IAS. I’m guessing I still need the LoH on it? …. I would think I’m getting more life from that than from LS at this point because my damage is only in the 70k range I think.
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Dec 11 2012 11:10am
Quote (moogleslam @ Dec 11 2012 08:30am)
I think I’ve got a pretty good handle on the build now as I’ve been playing it for a while.  The only real weakness seems to be the Molten mod – that gets my life going down pretty fast sometimes, but then I just switch to WotB to finish off the pack faster, and that tends to keep me alive.  I could certainly work on my resists though.

Only other thing is I seem to have a slightly hard time generating fury on regular monsters if it’s not a super dense pack.  I could get as much as 10% more crit chance from an amulet (though I think I’m already around 50%), but maybe the solution is that I try a higher monster power, so that my tornadoes are hitting something for longer? …. Or would that make my runs less efficient?

So let’s say I get an amulet with CHC instead of IAS.  I’m guessing I still need the LoH on it? …. I would think I’m getting more life from that than from LS at this point because my damage is only in the 70k range I think.


Ideally you would want to upgrade your ammy to a cc/chd and your weapons to similar stats they have now but with lifesteal. I would also look into changing out your right ring into something with str/30+ average damage/cc/chd, adjusting the crit/chd to a range you can afford and it should be a significant dps upgrade. Obvously all of this costs gold so do what you can.
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Quote (arckarck @ Dec 6 2012 09:06am)
hey tbone,

awesome post, concise and hits the less obvious but very important things. i agree especially with buying stuff cause it's a good deal. we all upgrade eventually so one of the best reasons to buy something is simply because it's a great deal. i point this out because this is rarely mentioned.

some questions if you don't mind

1) what mp do you do? it sounds like you do mid/high mp. if that's the case, why don't you do mp0 or 1 for potentially better xp/loot per unit time?
2) why frenzy with maniac over bash with punish? so i can imagine some answers but i'm curious from your perspective. i ask the question from the following perspective: when i'm with my ww spec, i use bash/instigation because i do mp0/1 so it's just to bash inanimate objects so i can continuously sprint. however, when i'm in my hota/overpower/rend spec for ubers, i use bash with punish over frenzy w/maniac. i use bash because:

a) fury regen is faster (i know you mentioned this as a benefit for bash/punish over frenzy/maniac in your post)
b ) i think (never measured) that 3 bashes take less time than 5 frenzy hits. therefore, it takes me less time to get to +24% than would frenzy. in my hota build, i hota about 8-9 times before i do bash to maintain the +24% dmg. i repeat this over and over, and sometimes i throw in a rend/blood lust if i need it for survival purposes. thus, the only arguments i could see for frenzy are:

i) frenzy does more dmg than bash - but is this the case considering that i only do one frenzy or bash every 8-9 HOTAs?
ii) some other reason.

i should caveat all this with the fact that you are likely using frenzy much more frequently than i would use frenzy or bash, so... yeah i'm asking with regard to my build in particular, for which you may or may not think frenzy is better than bash. but also feel free to share your use of frenzy in your build and how in that case it is better than bash.

last question, do you post on the d3 bnet barbarian forums with dboy, acrinomous, uberjager, and the other guys who post a lot and seem quite knowledgeable?

thanks,
arck#1122


ty :)


I do mp6, I find it most enjoyable, I am over worrying about what is best exp/loot per hour at this point

mp6 just feels right, and I down elites in 4-15 secs

you keep the 75% ias from frenzy while you HOTA SMASH, no beating frenzy IMO.. especially with my +% frenzy dmg, I tried recently going back to bash.. I just cant do it.. If you can keep 5 stack frenzy its god status, smacking shit like a mad man :)

This post was edited by Tboner on Dec 6 2012 06:50pm
QUOTE ABOVE


I don't believe that the 75% IAS from frenzy carries over to HOTA. if it did, frenzy >>>>>>> bash for hota build

This post was edited by arckarck on Dec 11 2012 11:40am
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Dec 11 2012 12:16pm
the 75 IAS from Frenzy doesnt carry over to hota, juste the %damage buff from maniac
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Frenzy Maniac + HOTA is just so awesome.
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