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Jul 9 2012 04:11pm
Quote (Shirl86 @ 10 Jul 2012 00:06)
so... i've upgraded my armor and 1 ring... atm sitting at:
50k/90k DPS (SS off/on)
1,7 APS
32,5% crit chance
192% crit dmg
30k HP
260-310@res
140 LoH
240 HP/sec regen
1800+ Dex which gives me
2800 armor
38,4% dodge

Do u think that i can effective farm A2? (solo or duo)



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Jul 9 2012 04:43pm
Quote (Sarastrasza @ Jul 9 2012 05:00pm)
why not bother with mf???????


cuz if u get guaranteed drops why bother. it only slows u down especially with later act farming

for the gold it takes to buy gear that lets u mf AND kill shit well, u might as well focus on the kill well and be super gg
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Jul 9 2012 04:49pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ 10 Jul 2012 00:43)
cuz if u get guaranteed drops why bother. it only slows u down especially with later act farming

for the gold it takes to buy gear that lets u mf AND kill shit well, u might as well focus on the kill well and be super gg


if you feel that way, then by all means ignore mf!
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Jul 9 2012 05:22pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 9 2012 03:43pm)
cuz if u get guaranteed drops why bother. it only slows u down especially with later act farming

for the gold it takes to buy gear that lets u mf AND kill shit well, u might as well focus on the kill well and be super gg

250% MF and roflstomping A1 will typically result in faster acquisition of decent L63 items (yes, the drop chance for them is lower, but when they do drop they have a much higher rate of being a magic or rare item rather than grey/white).

In addition to this A1 has much more melee mobs through the entire act, which makes mopping them up much faster. This means you can find MF/GF gear and roll through and actually make really solid profits. With ~300%+ GF you can easily leave with 300-500k gold in a single clear of A1 (which is like ~30m) in addition to probably... 5 trips back to town with L61+ blues for 2k/essence and maybe... 4-5 of 10 items being rares too. It's quite profitable.

It's also really easy, so you can do it when you're really bored, really tired, or drunk. Doing A3 in that kind of gear just isn't going to happen without extreme focus and even then you'll probably be moving pretty damn slow.
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Jul 10 2012 01:11am
Quote (Sarastrasza @ Jul 10 2012 12:11am)
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ty, about MF i agree with Masta, even if i'm pretty much lower in gear/stats i would always prefer a super fast run with GG gears than slower with MF, especially while looking at the (anyway) crap loots
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Jul 10 2012 01:59am
if you dont have mf on your gear, there is virtually no spot in the game that can be farmed fast enough to matter in a comparision to Warriors rest with max mf, worth considering when you are forgoing mf! Get aleast 100 mf from gear or go warriors rest with max (can be done with 5k dps)

This post was edited by Sarastrasza on Jul 10 2012 02:00am
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Jul 10 2012 02:07am
Changing argument:
In the last 3-4 days i was testing the rune "Focused Mind" on Preparation and i found it to be really good if you, like me, have no Nats and base/close to base discipline...
It basically says u regen 45disc over 15sec (which means 3 disc/sec, +1 base regen, 4 disc/sec) it's like to have Nats 4th set pieces bonus for 15 sec, with a 30 sec break between each use of Preparation.
As i said, not bad at all if u dont have any +disc items, i'm actually preferring it to Backup Plans, it allows me to use 6 Shadow Powers/Smoke Screens consecutive

This post was edited by Shirl86 on Jul 10 2012 02:10am
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Quote (Sarastrasza @ Jul 10 2012 05:59pm)
if you dont have mf on your gear, there is virtually no spot in the game that can be farmed fast enough to matter in a comparision to Warriors rest with max mf, worth considering when you are forgoing mf! Get aleast 100 mf from gear or go warriors rest with max (can be done with 5k dps)


this

and have a slightly subpar dps with like 200+baseline mf is actually better than any pure dps build without mf, because not only it allows you to get more rares from elites when you have 5NV (without mf you prob get 1-2rare, with 200+base mf you would gain at least 3-4 or even 5rares from elite kills).
Aside from that, you also have great chance to get rare items from white monsters (typically 1-2rare from white monsters per run).
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Quote (10878217 @ Jul 11 2012 09:57am)
this

and have a slightly subpar dps with like 200+baseline mf is actually better than any pure dps build without mf, because not only it allows you to get more rares from elites when you have 5NV (without mf you prob get 1-2rare, with 200+base mf you would gain at least 3-4 or even 5rares from elite kills).
Aside from that, you also have great chance to get rare items from white monsters (typically 1-2rare from white monsters per run).


no money to get such equipment for me
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