Then if you dont skip anything you will be whirling 24/7. In the video you dont mention anything about not using it while running. You obviously do not lol. And if you need to kite with a top 10 barb --> lol

I could be wrong about stormshield, time will tell, but you obviously lose lots of dps (dont make me explain why)




from dual wield to shield theres a big loss in dps

Not sure if you are understanding my point honestly.
If I am running and mobs die by just following me, that's some kind of kiting. In that way, I am not skipping anything nor I can't see the sense of your "lol", as I am just killing without even getting close to the mobs.
Anyway, as you can see I am open to discussing build diversity as long as it stays a real discussion and not a random flaming attempt.

im not sure if you know how to play barb. if you run away with just sprint, you are not letting them stay in the nados for too long to take max dps. cuz they are constantly on the move. with ww you keep them in a tight perimeter and spam nados strategically, also ww is an extra 10% - 20% dmg and more leech cuz it hits harder than nados and its super mobility vs nasty elites and in general.

enjoy kiting 50-80 mln mobs then with just sprint, funniest thing i ever heard. yeah they'll die just following you sure. This is a high mp level build after all right? The only reason SS might be reasonable to swap out 2nd wpn for.

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Oct 2 2012 07:23pm

Let me try and translate here:

I think the point Macs is trying to make is that if he runs in a straight line, the adds will follow a path somewhat similar to the line Macs took, thus running through nados left behind.

If I'm wrong, I apologize for further confusing the issue.

If this is however the case, do you not care about these random mobs drops? Aren't you skipping the possibility of legendaries by using this method versus what markilbaldacchino is arguing? I guess that wouldn't matter if you already have top10 gear kind of money and you're only concerned with Paragon leveling.

you could base your build based on tornado dmg alone or mix it with whirlwind.
at 2.00 attacks per second each tornado hits 6 times if your tornados are hitting for 15k dmg thats 90k dmg per tornado per second.
if you have 100k dps at 2 attacks per second thats 200k dmg per second from whirlwind.

if you are effectively hitting the same monster with 3 tornadoes it makes since to be based off twister dmg.
if you only hit with 2 tornadoes it makes more sense to focus on whirlwind dmg.

you would be missing major dps from whrilwind without the crit dmg seeing as your nados are not going to be critting for 400k+ or do they?

I truly feel sorry for you if you believe that.

Exactly. Also, by doing so I am also able to see the drops as the mobs die before I get out of screen most of the times, else I of course go back to them and use either WW or Bash if needed.



Please let me know where did I say it's something to do on 1.0.5, I was showing an example of gameplay in 1.0.4 - check minute 11.30 -> 11.40, check how these few spiders die "kiting" and without wasting time finishing them with WW. Also check from 11.30.
Anyway, I am done trying to explain the same thing now, if you don't like it just play as you wish, I am happy enough since people who saw my stream and then this guide know how do I play it and are working on improving theirs barbs based on this guide.

you guys are all dicks, his accent is fine and more than clear enough to understand.

I know what he meant, and i explained why this is bad to play like that all the time

if you run away with just sprint, you are not letting them stay in the nados for too long to take max dps. cuz they are constantly on the move. with ww you keep them in a tight perimeter and spam nados strategically, also ww is an extra 10% - 20% dmg and more leech cuz it hits harder than nados and its super mobility vs nasty elites and in general.

WW - 10% more dmg (other 90% from nados), more speed, more mobility, mobs are in the nados all the time - faster killing speed and runs = the point of ww barb, kiting = wasting time, the antithesis of ww barb. Saying something like you dont even need to use ww that much was bad advice. You only do that kite / run away thing when and if you are at low hp or out of fury, which a top 10 barb in new patch should have barely any issues with.




Why on earth would you use stormshield on a ww barb for 104 if you can afford dual wield for very high dps / leech LMFAO. Its true it adds some element of tanking to the gc ww build but its just not needed, and its hence not worth sacrificing dps, I never needed it and my barb gear is so ridiculous compared to yours and I still dont need it on PTR at mp4/5 (where mobs hit harder than 104).

Also --> ''Please let me know where did I say it's something to do on 1.0.5'' --> I've seen a lot of concerns about the Barbarian and the upcoming changes on 1.0.5 so decided to make a video in order to help people out.

WHy would you show gameplay of 104 anyway, ppl know how to play barb by now, and ofc those spiders die kiting they have low hp, but other mobs in high mp levels in new patch is different story, if you play like that all the time you will slow down your runs a lot.



Well its been tested and ww only accounts for circa 10% of overall dps since nado tick so much and you can place a lot of them and they stack. But still its a nice add and leeches nice too and thats not the real point of using ww ...

The point is WW is going to let you make mobs stay in your nado range all the time AND you stack nados in the same, say 10-20 yds for mega dps and leech. They let you move really fast and in every direction and degree during combat too.




I think those who instaflamed him for accent etc are because they heard mention of athene. I think on this forum if you associate with athene it more hurts than helps you lol - a lot of ppl dont like him and who can blame them - the guy is a total douche, so incredibly obnoxious that when he opens his mouth you just vomit LOL

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This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Oct 3 2012 05:27am

Sorry, but I must agree with a large amount of this feedback.

The build you used and how you geared up your character is correct however.
Only thing it lacks is attack speed from items since you focused on critical rate, critical damage, and strength for the offense.

This post was edited by Djsem on Oct 3 2012 05:12am