is smoke screen for being frozen only? what other examples are there for the skill? i've never seen him die from being frozen other than being frozen and then double-arcaned.

yes, any character can be a tank if you define it as having more vit/res. it's the skills that enable you to stand still without dying. my wizard has 71k life, but i don't classify her as a tank, because i'm an archon wizard.. i proc crit mass a lot with wicked wind and then archon.

using gloom post patch and spending more gold on gear with vit/res versus the original glass cannon demon hunters still makes it more or less the same build.

i don't understand the confusion between two builds.

just think of it as hybrid.

dropout's build is original and effective enough to be its own build.

agreed. i actually got tips from him when i was starting my tank dh and modified his build to my style of play. it's an excellent starting point for people thats new to tank dh build.

i just use the same as op, caltrops all the way, tanks all melee easy
gas grenades for extra dmg/loh
gloom vs arcane sentry
ss vs frozen
hungering vs ranged

since 90% is just melee and no annoying affixes, i just use gas grenades + caltrops, i don't kite at all
i just think shuriken cloud is too weak for a3/4, gloom > sentry and hail of knives sucks

If you don't like the build then move on to another build. You don't need to try to prove something that is not part of this build. I honestly don't know what your trying to prove. You can build a char 1000 different ways. I made this guide because I have had several request to make the guide and explain how I use it. Shuriken cloud is not a massive dps skills. Its for Loh,stun,freeze and crit proc. Hail of knives hits hard if you know when you use it and it is also a great snare to slow fast monsters down to get in close to get them freeze stun locked.



I honestly don't see the point in gloom or smoke screen when you could have other skills that are putting out dmg. I could have nats if I wanted but I still don't see the point in needing those skills. Freeze does not last long enough to waiste dps on another skill.



Honestly I dont spam alot as Eric said in the video it shows how much I use my skill caltrops last 12 seconds so every 10 seconds I would need to drop one caltrop bombs take a little while to explode after dropping. Hail of knives has a 10 second cool down. I am going to get a new video up soon. I do alot more damage then in the current video and have stun and freeze now.



I've not found a range mob yet that I was not able to kill with easy it just takes a little longer then the melee elites. My stun and freeze procs alot more then you would think becaue of the low %



I've tried using two bow's it was not worth it at all from when i tried it.

I have a question. How do you dodge freeze and arcane monster attacks?



k, found it.

This post was edited by yo_mama on Aug 16 2012 06:18pm

I responded to your pm let me know if you have any other questions. The is a different build I don't use smoke screen but if it helps you then good for you




I love this build I keep upgrading it all the time.

I think you should recognize taking Marked for Death with Death Tool instead of sentry.