at some point vitality outpaces mitigation in terms of ROI -- particularly with resists and armor. not to mention that LoH outpaces mitigation fairly early on as well.

it's not so clear-cut. the minimal basis is to have enough mitigation and hp to not get 1-2 shot, and then get enough additional regen/mitigation to heal up from the damage you incur while fighting. to say that there's only one way of doing this is short-sighted at best.

This post was edited by irimi on Jul 2 2012 11:20am

you can't tank shielding mobs with LoH. kite until their shields go down, DPS, then retreat when the shields go up again.

no amount of gear is going to prevent you from having to l2p.

also: they ninja nerfed shielding in the previous patch so that CCs such as Blind still work on shielding mobs. use that to get out of a tight spot if serenity is down.

This post was edited by irimi on Jul 2 2012 11:22am

thanks for all the comments.
I usually do not have problem with mobs unless i challenge myself into a hard situation.
when I do mf runs, i do not stop at white mobs, so sometime there are just too many white mobs around me together with elites. One good thing of this is I can use white mobs as health globe..bad thing is if they are too nasty like I mentioned in Field of slaughter, then I may get killed by them

... how much did you spend on your gear?

up the res higher (and if what you said you are aimin at 90k life and 900+ res, do it.) but up your block pronto. Either with a justice lantern or helm of command (u can easily get a crit chance justice lantern if you can afford 30k dps and 81k life haha). Not sure what pieces would mess up your build balance, but upin your block past 19% is a must, thats way too low if your using a shield monk, cause if not, you minues well just dual weld. Is that 30k dps unbuffed or with buff ? Im assumin buffed a lil with BOH or somethin.

ya from what ive experienced, dont think anyone can seriously just faceroll n sit in desecrator, plagues n archane with fire chains, etc for 5 straight minutes n expect to heal back with loh (unless you have some godly number thats like 4k+ maybe? if thats even possible via shield setup lol cause i think dual weld you can hit 4k loh). Everyone has to move out of them even with godly gear.

are you using string of ears or a godly monk rare belt?

the stats are totally unbuffed. I will consider helm of command and justice lantern. but those will sacrifice some life and dmg.
i do not use string of ears. and my belt is not godly at all. I think it is 99 dex, 56 cold, 76 all res and 12% life. not much chance to upgrade this one

81k life is frankly a huge waste on any character class in this game.

well, i had 87k when i was lvl59
i guess i am just used to have high life. and i do not see why it hurts

Let's assume 2 situations: 100k life and 50k life, BUT gear is different - the first build focused more on vit, and second more on res/armor. And both builds have same survivality (same Effective HP).

Both are hit by Evil Mob From Beyond. Hit hard, both lost exactly 50% of their life (because their EHP is the same).

Who's in worse position now? A build that needs 50k life healed, or build that needs 25k healed? And note that this mob is still there and still wants to kill you.

obviously 100k life vs 50k life wins if 100k life is actually 2x more EHP than 50k life build

This post was edited by ikusus on Jul 2 2012 01:08pm

well, this is my stats with follower and buff plus BOH dmg


do you see any significant survival problem if i had like 50k life? if not, why does it hurt to have 30k more life then?

This post was edited by kyrre on Jul 2 2012 01:19pm

When I rock the gear in the post below, I can face tank nearly anything in A3. Prettttty much anything. Arcane, frozen, desecrator shielding or something would give me trouble... but every 9.5/10 mobs I can face tank pretty well.

My problem is that I am slowing down runs for DH's and other people I run with because of lack of DPS. How can I transition / what can I give up. I tried experimenting and could up by DPS anwhere from 12k to 30k, but my survivability takes huge hits.

looking for some help here:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=63573647&f=142