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Apr 25 2017 10:55pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Apr 21 2017 02:15pm)
wrong, you're entitled to your opinion, therfore there is no need to debate.

its clear that you are incapable of determining the difference between opinion and fact.

i also dont just go around saying this game is great. i simply try help people when they are asking questions and dont disregard the topic of the thread and respond with an utterly useless comment like games dead, games shit or
something to that extent.

now, me bashing you scrubs, ya i can agree thats pollution. but at this point someone needs to call you out before it gets worse. JSP readers shouldnt have to filter trash.
but apperently you people feel it is 100% necessary that JSP should be littered with your useless comments.

i will admit i wanted d3 to be a better version of d2 and they are clearly very different games. but i do see the positive in what theyve done.

for the most part, people clearly apologize when spamming in FS or ISO threads in the d2 section, which demonstrates and certain amount of respect to the original poster and to jsp.
why should this be any different for d3? or any other game for that matter. i cant contest for other games really. ive only ever used jsp for d2 & d3.

I GUESS ITS TOO BAD THE ADMINS ARENT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.



D3 failed man. Stop fooling yourself because you are not fooling anyone else.

D3 sucks, its the truth.
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Apr 26 2017 05:40am
Quote (C4NTWO @ Apr 26 2017 04:50am)
rng doesnt clear rifts and at this point neither do bots


u shuld apply to be a d3 dev cuz yor a fuckin retarded cunt to
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I mean, how could they fuck up D3?. After the great success D2 was, I cant understand how they managed to fuck everything that made D2 great. The first fuck up was when they fired the ones who created Diablo 1 and 2. Why on earth would you do something like this?.
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Quote (C4NTWO @ 25 Apr 2017 19:43)

in my opinion, developers took the lazy route and simply removed trading to make things "fair", or they concluded fixing the issues would cost more than the d3 name was worth to them. idk.

when you've got an endgame which is a ranked & timed event like greater rifts, you dont want the players who "buy" the most expensive items
to be at the top of the leader board simply because of their purchases. i like how skill is a very crucial factor as to how high up the leaderboard you can go.
this is something the d2 ladder does very poorly since it is only based on experience gain.

trading gives a purpose to botting. a "real money" auction house gave purpose to botting and so on. sorry, but d2 was ruined by this. ladder is trashed within days of a reset.
this promotes hoarding since there is resale value. why should i be held back from making games because the dclone hunters are taxing the servers? just as an example.
and the queue's wouldnt exist if hunters had no purpose to acquire hundreds of annis to sell them off.

i dont know what the answer is, but i too agree that i miss trades. maybe you need different realms for ranked play without trades, and a realm open for trading.


Either it's pay to win or nolifers win.
Removing trading didn't get rid of botting, and nolifers will always dominate the "leaderboards" so it was a very stupid decision.

Quote (C4NTWO @ 25 Apr 2017 19:50)
rng doesnt clear rifts and at this point neither do bots


Rng determines what kind of rift you'll get, so it does play a huge part in it.
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Quote (C4NTWO @ Apr 25 2017 08:43am)
haha, you wish. just a busy week at work. no time to argue on jsp.



in my opinion, developers took the lazy route and simply removed trading to make things "fair", or they concluded fixing the issues would cost more than the d3 name was worth to them. idk.

when you've got an endgame which is a ranked & timed event like greater rifts, you dont want the players who "buy" the most expensive items
to be at the top of the leader board simply because of their purchases. i like how skill is a very crucial factor as to how high up the leaderboard you can go.
this is something the d2 ladder does very poorly since it is only based on experience gain.

trading gives a purpose to botting. a "real money" auction house gave purpose to botting and so on. sorry, but d2 was ruined by this. ladder is trashed within days of a reset.
this promotes hoarding since there is resale value. why should i be held back from making games because the dclone hunters are taxing the servers? just as an example.
and the queue's wouldnt exist if hunters had no purpose to acquire hundreds of annis to sell them off.

i dont know what the answer is, but i too agree that i miss trades. maybe you need different realms for ranked play without trades, and a realm open for trading.


Man, this botting argument just doesn't work and falls flat every single time.

They are just as many bots in the fucking game now spamming for "leveling and unique services". last time I played I got messaged, and saw hundreds of those bots spamming in chat selling services. I kept thinking to myself how the fvck does this game still have bots when there is no trading? They'll always find a way to spam the game and offer a service regardless of what you do. POE has them, D3 has them, etc. So removing trading does nothing. People will bot. Deal with it.

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trading gives a purpose to botting. a "real money" auction house gave purpose to botting and so on. sorry, but d2 was ruined by this. ladder is trashed within days of a reset.


Yeah, because even D2 (almost 2 decades later) still has more people online than D3? Yeah, you're right, removing trading and the economy was such a good idea! :rofl:

Better tell everyone on d2 that njaguar sent you when you login! :lol:

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Apr 27 2017 01:13am
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Rip c4ntwo
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Quote (HardyTarget @ Apr 27 2017 02:01am)
Either it's pay to win or nolifers win.
Removing trading didn't get rid of botting, and nolifers will always dominate the "leaderboards" so it was a very stupid decision.

Rng determines what kind of rift you'll get, so it does play a huge part in it.


theres a big difference between no lifers and botters. sry, but no lifers are set to win because they have more seat time and that is a good thing. its the only way to win with rng unless you get lucky. so ya, someone
with more time played will have better odds of having better items and therefore will end up with better items. makes complete sense to me...
and ya, if you want to be competitive, you need to put in the seat time...

right rng does determine the rift, but thats common to all players therefore fair"ish". same way all players can quit game and remake, therefore fair"ish". however, the case with botting, is that not
all players will have access to bots. therefore its not fair. and it is also not fair to state that the only way to be successful is by running bots.

this is because the d3 endgame is a ranked/timed event which should be based mostly on skill, not solely the items. it is very true that skill > gear in d3, and definately not the case for d2 pvm.

this is why i say d3 is a players game. not a hoarders game and not a traders game. because the only thing to do in this game is to see how high you can go in GRs. and unlike d2, it actually requires you to play and not just sit in a full 8player baal run over and over.
im talking d2 ladder vs d3 greater rifts here... no need to compare anything pvp related since d3 pvp is simply junk.

by removing trades, you force people to play & to learn, gain skill and unless in a party, acquire their own items. not just pull out the credit card and buy your way to the top. which should be looked after closely when the endgame is what it is.
also, receiving services or purchasing an account with leveled characters would not put you at the top of the leaderboards alone. you need to have skill to be at the top.


and JohnMiller, the amount of people still playing d2 is crooked as shit. how many of the users logged in are bots? i see posts in the d2 jsp section of people asking for 50+ hoz's.... haha, i wonder how few people are actually "PLAYING" d2.
dont get me wrong, i love d2, butdont talk like d2 is gold when it is in fact so broken and outdated. and sry, but these hoz's arent for "upping".
i'm quite certain that there are more online accounts "running bots" on d2 to make a buck than there are real people actually there to play.

it is very clear that removing trades has done something major to d3. proof is in the fact that i cant go to some website, and buy all my top tier items. but like you said, and i agree, there is no way around certain exploits.

i wish me and njaguar were good friends, i get him to bitch slap all you scrubs spamming d3 hate when it isn't relevant to the topic of the thread, lol

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Apr 27 2017 12:18pm
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Apr 27 2017 11:59am
I think C4NTWO must be some sort of troll laughing his ass off everytime he gets an answer. Nobody can be so blind not to realize the crapfest D3 turned into.

This post was edited by Golden_Order on Apr 27 2017 11:59am
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Quote (Golden_Order @ Apr 27 2017 12:59pm)
I think C4NTWO must be some sort of troll laughing his ass off everytime he gets an answer. Nobody can be so blind not to realize the crapfest D3 turned into.


i do laugh at a lot of the stupid assumptions you guys make...
and i also laugh at the fact that the majority of you haters just attack the individual your arguing with.

props to someone like HardyTarget who can have a constructive discussion and doesn't seem to aim to just throw out insults...

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Apr 27 2017 12:15pm
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Apr 27 2017 12:14pm
Jay Wilson is shit, fuck that loser
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