i don't get it. what?

rofl.. nice guide rly.. thanks i should use it

http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Aveal-2365/hero/2560474

My barb so far.

Well I spent about 70,000 gold to convert my barb to ww last night.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JinShin85-1163/hero/7650352

Just did a full act 3 run with it. It's much better than the regular barb in terms of FUNNESS. Love it.

The best part was that I spent 70k gold to do it. bahaha

One question though. Do I really just ignore the dps of my offhand? Isn't it better to get one with higher dps for ww dmg? I'm just so noob at this build. Thanks.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Aug 20 2012 08:26am

Not as important as mainhand, but dont get a weapon with extremely low dps either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qBCI70iFHo

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Aug 20 2012 08:51am

Thanks for the vid. Wow you are actually pretty helpful today. LOL

My take from that vid was that it doesn't really affect that much real dmg output. I'll just stick with my offhand for now and probably upgrade later on with base crit + socket.

Thanks again.

I'm not helpful usually?

Iirc he is saying to not go below 600dps on oh, remember your dps is averaged between both weapons, and if you use really low dps then make sure its a dagger so less interval where its swinging

I don't know if it is just me as the damage numbers flash by very fast during ww, however I can see the damage output between ww and bash is very close to each other. I can Bash up to 130k yellow on main hand, but I can also ww up to 80k yellow. I don't think damage of weapons drops if the dps of the off-hand is lower, I am starting to guess it could be just a display bug, any one has the same idea as me? Having a very low dps on off-hand don't affect overall damage on main-hand at all.



p.s.

I saw this video, even using a very low dps off-hand, the killing speed of Azmodan only increases very little, which is reasonable because the off-hand is in fact lower, even though the damage shows a drastic drop, the performance of killing Azmodan isn't very much affected....

This post was edited by Jaxz on Aug 20 2012 09:21am

No, of course low damage on off hand doesnt affect main hand damage, they are separate but it affects overall dps esp if oh is swinging slow. Since offhand only affects ww not nado and most of your killing is coming from nado, as tested in that video ww is around 10% of overall damage, obsessing on offhand dmg is not important. But to not care about it at all is the other extreme

I should really test myself with a low dps weapon with the same stats as offhand, but whilst fumbling about on the AH I found a 450 dps dagger with loh crit dmg socket and it only cost 50 mln of course. I dont believe the prices.

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Aug 20 2012 09:37am

Then this explains it, because ww is never seen as a main form of attack, but more for mobility. Even having a low low dps off-hand for instance a dagger, killing speed improves due to its high aps on it.

I have ever tried dual swords combo of the same damage. When single wield on shield, I can achieve about 30k damage on the first sword, and 26k damage on the second sword, however when dual-wielding both swords, over-all damage is only achievable up to 39k instead of 56k. Killing speed only improved marginally however survivability drops drastically. (of course my off-hand has 700 LoH in place of the natural 51% crit compared to the first sword, but doesn't change the fact survivability of dual-sword combo is suck even at 1500LoH)

Interestingly when equiped with a for instance a 1100dps/1.2aps spear and a 400dps/1.66aps dagger, and at only 30k damage overall, which the damage is even much lower than the sword-sword combo, performance (killing speed and survivability) improves vastly compared to the sword-sword build.

I think it is of paramount important to choose dagger as off-hand. The aps has great effects on the tick rate of the nados, which in turn affects LoH and Crit Damage, and most importantly, Fury Generation from Crit Rates.




p.s. there is another guide saying dual mighty-weapons combo. Seems that according to the youtube video, it works too and the user doesn't have any fury problems on his barb.







p.s.s I usually pub in act 3 with my first sword/shield combo for safety reasons. But today, I am going to log off my Diablo with my Spear/Dagger combo for viewing..
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jaxz-1792/hero/17504052

This post was edited by Jaxz on Aug 20 2012 09:58am