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Jul 11 2013 07:09pm
Quote (motox831 @ Jul 11 2013 05:08pm)
There is no right or wrong because there is no way to develop a set price for items.

SO thats why I simply was saying just own up to it man fuck it!!

If your making mula then props to you. I hope you understand none of what I wrote was in anger.

Mostly Laughter to be honest because you both seem like two cool dudes just hashin it out over prices that cant be controlled nor determined.



Agreed. But I think you have me mixed up with Ironside. I'm not arguing or siding with either of them. The scuffle is between them.
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Quote (motox831 @ Jul 12 2013 12:59am)
Your write items are worth what people pay..... S/S when that sells for $22.00 because I doubt it will sell. (Don't buy it yourself on your Mom's Paypal to make your E-Peen Bigger either)

If it doesn't sell wouldn't that mean that it is not worth $22.00?

Your statement is really contradicting and makes you look foolish. You can't state they are full of shit for making up prices when you came up with a price of $22.00.

In fact you yourself came up with the "magical number" that you made up in your head no?

In no way am I arguing with you. Just helping you understand everyone else's point of view.

Instead of arguing or defending yourself I would just be like mother fucker I put it up for $22.00 and what you jelly? you mad? Own up to it. 

Your obviously quick to own up that you exploit the LLD Market to make FG and Cash, whats the harm in saying I overprice and what?

Like you said Snipe better Cry Less. Let Haters Hate, but don't tell them their full of shit for making up a magical number.


Also looking for a recommendation on a level 30 LLD.

I always loved BvB's in Classic D2 because they were some what long and went back and forth.

Is there any classes that fight well in a mirror match that a lot of people play?

I am assuming Barbs, cause they are already over played, but looking for LLDers Opinions.


I don't believe I overprice... I bring prices down until they reach the number they sell at... Sometimes I start too low. Sometimes too high.

But saying an item isn't worth 80mil gold because he wouldn't personally pay it and there are other people I know that would pay double is dumb...

If the ring doesn't sell for 22$ then no it's probably not worth that... But that said it may be to someone who doesn't sign in for those 36 hours...

I do understand Iron for the most part. I'm also saying that if he doesn't own it, its always worth a lot less than if he did.

Is there a new arena patch coming out or something?...
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Jul 11 2013 07:16pm
Quote (starcreaft453 @ Jul 11 2013 05:12pm)
I don't believe I overprice... I bring prices down until they reach the number they sell at... Sometimes I start too low. Sometimes too high.

But saying an item isn't worth 80mil gold because he wouldn't personally pay it and there are other people I know that would pay double is dumb...

If the ring doesn't sell for 22$ then no it's probably not worth that... But that said it may be to someone who doesn't sign in for those 36 hours...

I do understand Iron for the most part. I'm also saying that if he doesn't own it, its always worth a lot less than if he did.

Is there a new arena patch coming out or something?...



But 36 hours is FOREVER! gimme gimme!

No, but LLD does seem to be picking up again(although I haven't been at it that long). I personally have gotten two people into it recently.
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Jul 11 2013 07:43pm
Quote (FknWizard @ Jul 12 2013 01:09am)
Agreed. But I think you have me mixed up with Ironside. I'm not arguing or siding with either of them. The scuffle is between them.


Yeah I was referring mostly to starcreaft453. :)

Quote (starcreaft453 @ Jul 12 2013 01:12am)
I don't believe I overprice... I bring prices down until they reach the number they sell at... Sometimes I start too low. Sometimes too high.

But saying an item isn't worth 80mil gold because he wouldn't personally pay it and there are other people I know that would pay double is dumb...

If the ring doesn't sell for 22$ then no it's probably not worth that... But that said it may be to someone who doesn't sign in for those 36 hours...

I do understand Iron for the most part. I'm also saying that if he doesn't own it, its always worth a lot less than if he did.

Is there a new arena patch coming out or something?...


You kind of avoided most of what I said, but thats ok I get where both of you are coming from.

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Jul 11 2013 09:58pm


amidoinitrite? Anyone interested? Looking for WD and Monk upgrades.

Actually, anything from my barb is okay for trade. FknWizard#1925

This post was edited by FknWizard on Jul 11 2013 10:00pm
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Jul 11 2013 11:02pm
Quote (motox831 @ Jul 11 2013 08:59pm)
Your write items are worth what people pay..... S/S when that sells for $22.00 because I doubt it will sell. (Don't buy it yourself on your Mom's Paypal to make your E-Peen Bigger either)

If it doesn't sell wouldn't that mean that it is not worth $22.00?

Your statement is really contradicting and makes you look foolish. You can't state they are full of shit for making up prices when you came up with a price of $22.00.

In fact you yourself came up with the "magical number" that you made up in your head no?

In no way am I arguing with you. Just helping you understand everyone else's point of view.

Instead of arguing or defending yourself I would just be like mother fucker I put it up for $22.00 and what you jelly? you mad? Own up to it. 

Your obviously quick to own up that you exploit the LLD Market to make FG and Cash, whats the harm in saying I overprice and what?

Like you said Snipe better Cry Less. Let Haters Hate, but don't tell them their full of shit for making up a magical number.


Also looking for a recommendation on a level 30 LLD.

I always loved BvB's in Classic D2 because they were some what long and went back and forth.

Is there any classes that fight well in a mirror match that a lot of people play?

I am assuming Barbs, cause they are already over played, but looking for LLDers Opinions.



Well first off, just because something sells for a price, does NOT mean it was worth that amount. At least if were talking about the way that people actually use the word "worth", i mean if i put up a barb ring, and theres 2 barbs that want that ring REALLY badly, they might have a bidding war, and that ring might sell for 250 bucks, that does NOT mean that u could turn around and SELL that ring for 250, it means that 2 ppl fought over it, and overpaid, when u overpay for something, u have simply paid "More" than it is worth, there is no question about that.

I operate an *** store where i sell hockey goods, i have sold multiples of the same card so many times it not even funny, and u wont believe how many times the first one i list sells for hundreds more than the next few i list, just because a couple people, or one person with deep pockets, wants it bad enuf, when talking about "worth" you assume u would be talking about a general price u could commonly get for that item. Kind of like a price guide, it might say a card is worth 200, just cuz u sell one for 500, dont mean u could do it again.

Barb vs Barb is great, u can win with less gear because its kinda chance, based on dodges, blocks, and crits mostly, if u get a crit rend ur prolly gunna win, and a few crit hotas will swing things one way or the other, theres alot of fun matchups in LLD tho.

This post was edited by Ir0nside on Jul 11 2013 11:04pm
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Jul 12 2013 12:25am
Looking for well geared WDs to face my monk. About 20+ matches at least :) Testing things slowly.

But Moto I wouldn't make a WD just because of the fact that people don't like facing them even though they're equally as good as any other class ;)

This post was edited by FknWizard on Jul 12 2013 12:28am
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Jul 12 2013 11:16am
Quote (FknWizard @ Jul 12 2013 12:25am)
Looking for well geared WDs to face my monk. About 20+ matches at least :) Testing things slowly.

But Moto I wouldn't make a WD just because of the fact that people don't like facing them even though they're equally as good as any other class ;)


Wds are op.
true story.
before I took a couple month break from lld I had the best level 30 wd on any server.
Also first wd to break 3k dps.
I know a lot about the wd mechanics and they are the best class.

wasn't until iron and I did extensive testing and telling him what gave me trouble in our duels and him finding that beastly perma slow amulet he had that he could beat me often. Sorry all future wd that duel ironside. Thanks to me and our testing he knows how to crush you regardless if how you attack him. ; P
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Jul 12 2013 11:49am
Quote (Kommandant @ Jul 12 2013 06:16pm)
Wds are op.
true story.
before I took a couple month break from lld I had the best level 30 wd on any server.
Also first wd to break 3k dps.
I know a lot about the wd mechanics and they are the best class.

wasn't until iron and I did extensive testing and telling him what gave me trouble in our duels and him finding that beastly perma slow amulet he had that he could beat me often.  Sorry all future wd that duel ironside. Thanks to me and our testing he knows how to crush you regardless if how you attack him.  ; P


Yet I won like half of our games with my mediocre wd :o

Wd op
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Jul 12 2013 01:16pm
I can assure you they definitely aren't unbeatable. Powerful, no doubt. Most powerful, probably but not unbeatable. And you don't have to play LLD 30 to understand how WDs work. Now show me WD>Monk! ;)

p.s. I broke 3k too :D and 2.3k on monk both with 10k+hp.

This post was edited by FknWizard on Jul 12 2013 01:18pm
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