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Nov 4 2012 11:01am
Quote (BABA @ Nov 4 2012 07:57am)
I don't have bears gear, never used it. 

And I don't think that DPS is counting 5.5% ac crit and also mana.

Many bears users have artificial DPS with attack speed items or shit mana consumption so they can't use it much.

Therefore, in conclusion, I feel I am the #1 WD in the world.  Also look at 100%+ base mf on my gear.  Also my freeze belt which procs constantly since AC and AR have very high proc coefficients meaning less kiting compared to bear builds meaning more DPS.  I have #1 rare INT freeze belt in the world.


I have both gear and since I sold my witching hour and manajumas to go under 100k dps I've found that bears do a better job and lower dps like you and I (sub 100k). No, your dps does not include 5.5 acid cloud from helm.

I've sold the majority of my WD, but he's still decent and doesn't have mana issues .. spiders pretty much make me spam forever

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PotatoSalad-1794/hero/238396

As you can see.. my dps is at 1.4 aps, so no exaggeration on asi on my dps

This post was edited by FF-Paradox on Nov 4 2012 11:03am
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Nov 4 2012 11:06am
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I have both gear and since I sold my witching hour and manajumas to go under 100k dps I've found that bears do a better job and lower dps like you and I (sub 100k). No, your dps does not include 5.5 acid cloud from helm.

I've sold the majority of my WD, but he's still decent and doesn't have mana issues .. spiders pretty much make me spam forever

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PotatoSalad-1794/hero/238396

As you can see.. my dps is at 1.4 aps, so no exaggeration on asi on my dps


How come it doesn't calculate the 5.5% AC crit from helmet? I also am going to buy SoJ with 6 or 7% AC crit so that will be around 12% bonus! How i can calculate this? how do you estimate the boost in dps, i dont understand. thank you

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Nov 4 2012 11:08am
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How come it doesn't calculate the 5.5% AC crit from helmet?  I also am going to buy SoJ with 6 or 7% AC crit so that will be around 12% bonus! How i can calculate this? how do you estimate the boost in dps, i dont understand. thank you


It doesn't include the 5.5 acid cloud, because it only affects a single skill. SOJ will also not appear on your dps as it effects elites only. You need to use charts to calculate this.

Just FYI, I do find acid cloud with freeze chance to be highly effective against ubers.

This should do what you want, check this post

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4940486385

This post was edited by FF-Paradox on Nov 4 2012 11:14am
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Quote (FF-Paradox @ Nov 4 2012 01:08pm)
It doesn't include the 5.5 acid cloud, because it only affects a single skill. SOJ will also not appear on your dps as it effects elites only. You need to use charts to calculate this.

Just FYI, I do find acid cloud with freeze chance to be highly effective against ubers.


It is incredible. Freeze is amazing with acid and rain of toads because they proc a lot. I have like 150 hours with my acid cloud WD and chance to freeze belt is a must imo, even if it means sacrificing withcing hour ( a freeze witching is hundreds of mil).

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This should do what you want, check this post

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4940486385

Ok thank you

Btw i was just trolling with the #1 in the world stuff, i like making jokes etc.

This post was edited by BABA on Nov 4 2012 11:17am
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Quote (BABA @ 4 Nov 2012 19:14)
Btw i was just trolling with the #1 in the world stuff, i like making jokes etc.




btw your mana is too low, pants are shit, crit zuni visio>guya zuni marrow>tyrael zuni ring>oculus any zuni boots>yours (4 set bonus = + mana = no need of spirit attune)and , as you use acid cloud you need more ias, so any lacuni>strongarm

forgot to say that lacuni and ring even without cc wiil be ok, cause you have more than you need

This post was edited by diobrando89 on Nov 4 2012 02:18pm
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http://media.twirlit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/nicolas-cage-you-dont-say.jpg

btw your mana is too low, pants are shit, crit zuni visio>guya  zuni marrow>tyrael  zuni ring>oculus  any zuni boots>yours (4 set bonus = + mana = no need of spirit attune)and , as you use acid cloud you need more ias, so  any lacuni>strongarm

forgot to say that lacuni and ring even without cc wiil be ok, cause you have more than you need


Acid Cloud does not need IAS, it's a DoT after the initial hit, and that DoT doesn't stack.

That guya gives a whopping 10.5% crit chance to Acid Cloud, it's a beast and super rare and looks badass. It's almost impossible to find this helm, there are ones with single INT rolls (~90ish INT) but you almost never see a double INT roll one with 5%+ cc and 5%+ AC cc

Oculus has MF, all res, vita, INT, crit chance, it's a good one. Sure there's better rings but it's good.

My boots suck, yeah. Zuni full set is overrated, don't need it but I'll get the boots. No mana trouble here with all the regen I have (helm, weapon, mojo all have regen).

Pants are pretty good, man. The LoH is key for Acid Cloud / Rain of Toads, which is why I went with Blackthornes. I don't think you know too much about this build based off that and the IAS statement. I have 165 hours played with it, probably like 150 taking out the leveling form 1-60. I've tried all kinds of combinations, including 2h.

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Quote (BABA @ Nov 4 2012 03:31pm)
Acid Cloud does not need IAS, it's a DoT after the initial hit, and that DoT doesn't stack. 

That guya gives a whopping 10.5% crit chance to Acid Cloud, it's a beast and super rare and looks badass.  It's almost impossible to find this helm, there are ones with single INT rolls (~90ish INT) but you almost never see a double INT roll one with 5%+ cc and 5%+ AC cc

Oculus has MF, all res, vita, INT, crit chance, it's a good one.  Sure there's better rings but it's good.

My boots suck, yeah.  Zuni full set is overrated, don't need it but I'll get the boots.  No mana trouble here with all the regen I have (helm, weapon, mojo all have regen).

Pants are pretty good, man.  The LoH is key for Acid Cloud / Rain of Toads, which is why I went with Blackthornes.  I don't think you know too much about this build based off that and the IAS statement. I have 165 hours played with it, probably like 150 taking out the leveling form 1-60.  I've tried all kinds of combinations, including 2h.


Acid cloud needs IAS because it's DoT. This way, you can use your primary (which doesnt really consume mana) faster.
Your helm is fine, but zuni better.
Zuni set isn't overrated, try it and you will understand.
Your pants are fine.
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Nov 4 2012 03:46pm
Quote (BABA @ 4 Nov 2012 22:31)
Acid Cloud does not need IAS, it's a DoT after the initial hit, and that DoT doesn't stack. 


wrong

Quote (BABA @ 4 Nov 2012 22:31)
That guya gives a whopping 10.5% crit chance to Acid Cloud, it's a beast and super rare and looks badass.  It's almost impossible to find this helm, there are ones with single INT rolls (~90ish INT) but you almost never see a double INT roll one with 5%+ cc and 5%+ AC cc


that helm is good yes, but zuni can roll with better stats and the set will give you way better bonuses, needless to say that you have enough cc and don't need that 5.5%

Quote (BABA @ 4 Nov 2012 22:31)
Oculus has MF, all res, vita, INT, crit chance, it's a good one.  Sure there's better rings but it's good.


mf = wasted stat, and your ocu is good but one more time any zuni ring>

Quote (BABA @ 4 Nov 2012 22:31)

My boots suck, yeah.  Zuni full set is overrated, don't need it but I'll get the boots.  No mana trouble here with all the regen I have (helm, weapon, mojo all have regen).


lol to that

Quote (BABA @ 4 Nov 2012 22:31)

Pants are pretty good, man.  The LoH is key for Acid Cloud / Rain of Toads, which is why I went with Blackthornes.  I don't think you know too much about this build based off that and the IAS statement. I have 165 hours played with it, probably like 150 taking out the leveling form 1-60.  I've tried all kinds of combinations, including 2h.


y maybe i'm wrong on pants, as you need loh, btw it's sure that 2h combo don't work: you need more attack speed
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Nov 4 2012 05:00pm
Something I am wondering is should I use horrify-frightening aspect or mass confusion for ubers ?
And what about farming.
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Something I am wondering is should I use horrify-frightening aspect or mass confusion for ubers ?
And what about farming.


MC has no effect on ubers.
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