the answer is obviously 2x rare rings
6 potential random affixes will beat any legendary ring

avg dmg , int , int/vit , cc , chd , as prolly the 6 best rolls unless u want some res instead of int/vit



so u wanted to compare a random rare ring to a perf soj? thats pretty fair...

with zuni you get 130 int bonus with boots tho
and litany 7% reduction is huge to ehp

dude you are either stupid or trolling. That wasn't a fucking essay, I just stated the obvious - any soj is bad for cm/ww melee wizards, period. If you ask me to give you any reasons why soj is bad and then when I gave you reasons in black and white simplified English you tell me you won't read my "essay" then just find a nearest wall and start running towards it. Every cm/ww wizard here will agree with me, you can stick to soj or nagelring, whatever.

lol ok man
forgot that your word is law around here!!!!!11111111111

point is he is stating arguments, and you run out of them, wich makes a good discussion kind of ambitious to achieve.

In my opinion this is a real good debate, and rather based on facts than troll blabla it would make it really useful^^


on topic again:
played again with 3,33 aps, and it sticks to me that this is a large improvement you feel even coming from 3 aps. Really thinking of making it standard amount, although you definitely lose dps...

This post was edited by Mesmerise on Dec 4 2012 11:58am

does attack speed add dmg to the right-click attack from archon form?

what should i upgrade next for pvp, echo fury? 12xx 90+ crit sock 15+ fear ?

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/tiber-2546/Atreia/252892

its my pvp gear eqd, in pve 375k unbuffed 460k ehp

This post was edited by DeathFalcom on Dec 4 2012 02:08pm

In a game where opinion varies player to player I don't have to give two flying shits about his opinion.
Either way perfect theorycrafted characters get 900k~ dps, with an soj you get about 840 base which equates to 252k bonus vs elites etc np

lol that is so off
im at 317k dps and once i put an soj on i lose 46k sheet dps already, not even counting my ias bp went down a tier
a 900k dps character would not be losing only 60k dps with soj more like over 140k

This post was edited by XpLiCiTs on Dec 4 2012 02:41pm

i don't see there is a point in discussing cm/ww wizard mechanics with him. All he is saying is "SOJ GOT DAMAGE LOL" absolutely ignoring and arguments about loss of utility, breakpoints, etc. Just let him be.

This post was edited by Mad1Lee on Dec 4 2012 04:06pm