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May 30 2012 12:49am
Been thinking about rolling a Wizard, after getting my WD towards the end of Act 2 Inferno. Since they seem to use the same gear (IAS, Int, VIt, Ressist).

How are Wizards in Act III and IV Inferno.
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May 30 2012 12:52am
Quote (Scrim @ May 30 2012 01:49am)
Been thinking about rolling a Wizard, after getting my WD towards the end of Act 2 Inferno. Since they seem to use the same gear (IAS, Int, VIt, Ressist).

How are Wizards in Act III and IV Inferno.


Dependent on gear, of course. With the right equipment, you can pretty much run through all acts with high DPS alone.

On a side-note:

I'm starting to doubt this guide-thingy. After further testing, it actually works out better if you simply focus all of your attention on DPS and forget about defense. You don't have to kite nearly as much and you kill everything a lot quicker. I'm going to have to start over again . . .
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May 30 2012 01:25am
@perverse can u gimme ur skills what u use @ inferno?

not like the first post from vanilla?

u talked about orb.

would be nice if u can gimme ur skills, u use
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May 30 2012 01:41am
just wanted to say thanks. together with my WD buddy i killed all act3 bosses yesterday on inferno.
well.. we did die our way to them but non the less we are now in act4.

i picked teleport instead of magic weapon so i could gain distance to assmodan in case my buddy died and needed a res.

love the way this wizzard is played. its fun. keep those builds comming.

ed. typo

This post was edited by leechi on May 30 2012 01:44am
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May 30 2012 01:46am
heres a vid me farming act3 uncut



This post was edited by DeathFalcom on May 30 2012 01:47am
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May 30 2012 01:48am
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As I have already posted beforehand in another thread, read this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5594209994

Your testing was inconclusive. It is always better to have higher damage per hit--as opposed to high DPS. ALWAYS.

(For Wizards, at least--and in Inferno. So maybe almost always.)


I read it. Nothing changes from what I said. He simply stated what I stated, I'll quote.

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"If your skill originally did 22% weapon damage every second, and you have +50% bonus attack speed, then it will do 1.5x, or 33%, weapon damage every second now. Thus your ticks will show 50% more damage...
Therefore, and this has been proven with testing, increasing attack speed 50% will increase the damage per shot of the hydras by 50%. They will still, however, attack at exactly the same speed regardless of attack speed"





If you insist, then I'm sorry. I must have mistook this "guide" as using Hydra as a primary source of damage. If you're prioritizing Damage over IAS value-for-value, then you must be using Piercing Orb and Blizzard as your sources for damage. In that case you're right. But that's a pretty crappy build for inferno then. I personally would use hydra for damage, allowing me to fly around the map throwing Blizzard for its slow and PO for extra damage, or arcane regen or whatever. I suggest you use Unrelenting Storm for more damage then.


However if your build happens to be centered around Hydras, like I thought it was, then DPS > damage per hit. I'd rather have my character be faster at casting than slower at casting. Why would you want to be slower at casting if the only drawback is lower damage on your supporting spells? Makes no sense unless those supporting spells are your main.
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May 30 2012 02:06am
Quote (Perverse @ May 30 2012 01:19am)
As I have already posted beforehand in another thread, read this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5594209994

Your testing was inconclusive. It is always better to have higher damage per hit--as opposed to high DPS. ALWAYS.

(For Wizards, at least--and in Inferno. So maybe almost always.)


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Hydras

As hydra is the cause of the most speculation, I'm giving them their own section here.  With the hydra, the attack speed of the heads is constant. Imagine each attack being a 'tick' of a channeled skill. It follows the same logic as the channeled spells then, that since attacks are done at a constant rate, that increased attack speed increases the rate at which they do damage. Therefore, and this has been proven with testing, increasing attack speed 50% will increase the damage per shot of the hydras by 50%. They will still, however, attack at exactly the same speed regardless of attack speed


This was posted "6 hours ago" in a later section by the same guy who started the thread. If this is actually true then I see no issue stacking ias as far as you can go, since the only skill that wouldn't reap the full benefit is arcane orb. I was extremely surprised to see this myself, and will probably try testing it later on my own.

This post was edited by qgan0914 on May 30 2012 02:08am
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May 30 2012 04:13am
ok Im following this thread since posted, i have a question pls: I was looking in ah to get some shoulders/wrists with ais, but the find options doesnt allow to add in the search ias/ais still i saw posted in trade sections wrists/shoulders with this mod.
How the hell? been looking trough many pages of ah but still didnt find any
any ideas?
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May 30 2012 04:17am
Quote (vici @ May 30 2012 05:13am)
ok Im following this thread since posted, i have a question pls: I was looking in ah to get some shoulders/wrists with ais, but the find options doesnt allow to add in the search ias/ais still i saw posted in trade sections wrists/shoulders with this mod.
How the hell? been looking trough many pages of ah but still didnt find any
any ideas?


helm/shoulders/bracers/boots won't have ias unless they're a certain legendary (i'm not sure any shoulders even have ias). Figure out the name of the legendary you want and (more specifically) the level requirement

For example, boots: Boj Angler, lvl 38

Search Armor -> All Armor Types (with boots you lose the option to filter ias), lvl 38 to 38
search for IAS and all you'll get will be these boots. Enter INT/VIT/whatever into the other search terms to filter just the ones with int
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May 30 2012 04:30am
Good stuff in here :)
I just need to gear up for Inferno and I'm ready to go :)
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