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Nov 23 2012 09:59pm
would i be able to be a nice cm/ww wiz with a 1.4 attack speed sword? Or do I need chantodo's will? i mean, i have a really nice sword with ls/socket/int/crit dmg... and i'd be seeing a huge drop on dps if i wore that chantodo's.
im also considering to wear a chantodo's force w/ apoc instead of triumvirate. Problem is that i'd have like 9-10 apoc. My helm is a mempo with 198int/4.5cc/8asi which im not willing to give up for a stormcrow...

so should i really get that chantodo's weapon for the apoc? or maybe mempo is such a waste of time and i should just get that stormcrow?

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first wiz here.. could someone help me with 20m budget archon wiz? would like to be able to do atleast mp4

also what skills and runes to use. thanks :)

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Nov 24 2012 04:36am
20m Archon on mp4 wont work at all... kill speed is way too slow to sustain Archon.
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Quote (brett20308 @ Nov 24 2012 11:19am)
first wiz here.. could someone help me with 20m budget archon wiz? would like to be able to do atleast mp4

also what skills and runes to use. thanks :)


Quote (Cocala @ Nov 24 2012 11:36am)
20m Archon on mp4 wont work at all... kill speed is way too slow to sustain Archon.


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Nov 24 2012 06:49am
You can probably do mp2 decently enough with a 20m wizard, but mp4 ain't happening.

Probably need about 200k dps to make mp4 worth it, yeah?
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Nov 24 2012 10:29am
Quote (Yazuki @ 23 Nov 2012 23:08)
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Nov 24 2012 08:52pm
Here is a question for all you amazingly gg cm/ww wiz experts out there:

I am sure I am not the only up and coming wizard who'd like to know kind of a minimum requirements stats guideline for doing ubers on mp10. I would give it a go, but 3 machines seems like just too large an investment just for a field trial. Anyone feel me?

I know about which skills to use, roughly some combination of

1) energy armor,
2) front nova,
3) explosive blast,
4) diamond skin,

lc) energy twister,
rc) teleport,

p1) cm,
p2) cold blooded,
p3) evocation

and I know I can practice this setup without putting machines on the line, but I am curious about stats, like:

Is there a bare minimum crit chance you would recommend before attempting mp10 ubers?
What about APS minimums?
How do I leech back all those hits they will sneak on me when I misclick and they are not frozen?
Can you post a quick item build as well? I have seen this setup, of course with cc, ias, res rolls where appropriate:
1) storm crow
2) tals plate
3) tals ammy
4) vile ward
5) lacuni prowlers
6) witching hour
7) innas temp
8) ice climbers
9) chantodo's will
10) chantodo's force
11) trifecta gloves
12) trifecta ring
13) zuni's pox

OK, lastly, I know I am already at tl;dr, but what about your merc? any good thoughts on how to actually make them useful? skills and items?

I know that being able to do this is obviously not going to cheap, not matter which setup or items. I just want to get a feel for when I am ready to pull the trigger, and I figure y'all can help out with that. Also wanna go about this the informed way :) Please chime in and help out if you have thoughts out there! Thanks guys



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Nov 24 2012 10:48pm
any help for a build still on 20m budget?
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Quote (whstevenso21 @ 25 Nov 2012 04:52)
Here is a question for all you amazingly gg cm/ww wiz experts out there:

I am sure I am not the only up and coming wizard who'd like to know kind of a minimum requirements stats guideline for doing ubers on mp10. I would give it a go, but 3 machines seems like just too large an investment just for a field trial. Anyone feel me?

I know about which skills to use, roughly some combination of

1) energy armor,
2) front nova,
3) explosive blast,
4) diamond skin,

lc) energy twister,
rc) teleport,

p1) cm,
p2) cold blooded,
p3) evocation

and I know I can practice this setup without putting machines on the line, but I am curious about stats, like:

Is there a bare minimum crit chance you would recommend before attempting mp10 ubers?
What about APS minimums?
How do I leech back all those hits they will sneak on me when I misclick and they are not frozen?
Can you post a quick item build as well? I have seen this setup, of course with cc, ias, res rolls where appropriate:
1) storm crow
2) tals plate
3) tals ammy
4) vile ward
5) lacuni prowlers
6) witching hour
7) innas temp
8) ice climbers
9) chantodo's will
10) chantodo's force
11) trifecta gloves
12) trifecta ring
13) zuni's pox

OK, lastly, I know I am already at tl;dr, but what about your merc? any good thoughts on how to actually make them useful? skills and items?

I know that being able to do this is obviously not going to cheap, not matter which setup or items. I just want to get a feel for when I am ready to pull the trigger, and I figure y'all can help out with that. Also wanna go about this the informed way :) Please chime in and help out if you have thoughts out there! Thanks guys


Aps 2,75+ , C/C about 45-50%, around 45k+ life, 600+all res, 1000 life per hit, dps 130k+ depending on time to kill uber. Watch out for Magdas Laser sentries.
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