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Nov 21 2012 05:04pm
Quote (Gravydip @ Nov 22 2012 03:00am)
Question about cm wizards

do you need 2.73 aps for perma freeze or is 2.72 good enough?


depends on how many targets you got. Like 1 target with fewer hitboxes can be permafrozen with 3 asp. Fat guys can be frozen with 2,73 (not with 2,72 - because wind breakpoint is at 2,73 mark). Groups 4+ can be frozen with 2,53 aps. But problem is that really really fat (in terms of hp) mobs get immune to constant nova spams and can unfroze even with 2,73 aps.
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Nov 21 2012 05:07pm
Quote (Mad1Lee @ Nov 21 2012 07:04pm)
depends on how many targets you got. Like 1 target with fewer hitboxes can be permafrozen with 3 asp. Fat guys can be frozen with 2,73 (not with 2,72 - because wind breakpoint is at 2,73 mark). Groups 4+ can be frozen with 2,53 aps. But problem is that really really fat (in terms of hp) mobs get immune to constant nova spams and can unfroze even with 2,73 aps.


Thanks for info, time to get that 0.01 -_-
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Nov 21 2012 05:07pm
Quote (MadChickins @ Nov 21 2012 07:37pm)

has anyone found an uber build thats non critical mass. and is successful with it?


Well, I guess that would be a very high dps wizzard with meteor shower/frost hydra combo, with max apoc, high life regen and high loh/leech. You will need cold blooded/illusionist passives and constant kiting/teleporting after taking a single hit. Key would be to regenerate hp to full after that single hit and keep kiting spamming meteor showers and frost hydra that would snare ubers. Still worse than cm/ww.

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Nov 21 2012 06:38pm
Yo guys, I need a little help xD

with 20mil budget I need to pimp up a little bit my dps! what I need to change first?

thx for the help <3

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Quote (Vanztdc @ Nov 22 2012 04:38am)
Yo guys, I need a little help xD

with 20mil budget I need to pimp up a little bit my dps! what I need to change first?

thx for the help <3

http://eu.battle.net/d3/it/profile/Vanztdc-2649/hero/27949


well, everything is bad, reminds me of myself when I started using cm/ww build. But that was back in the days when wizards rule, now after so many nerfs this build became super expensive. I suggest you build cheap arcon wizzard for that money and speed farm mp1-2. For 20 mill your wiz won't be any good in melee. But if you want to go melee way, try finding cheap chantodo's will (wand) with increased attack speed, you need to get to 2,35 aps using time bubble - that's the minimum.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mad1Lee-2243/hero/195500 that's my version of shield cm/ww and I still have long way to go. Good chant force gives me +42k dps, but I need like 200 mill to buy chant force + crit mempo.

So all in all, build yourself an arcon wizz for that price, find an amulet with more damage, cheap apoc rare source (even oculus or tal source - they are cheap as dirt now), get your damage to at least 70k, run mp1 with magic weapon - blood magic and other necessary skills. CM/WW is a long and expensive road.
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Nov 22 2012 01:40am
My sad face of the day

Lost some Zuni's, I bid 39.25m (lol just lent out rest of gold)
They sold for 40m

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Nov 22 2012 12:11pm
Hello i need some help. I recently got my gear upgraded but i need some items to be able to survive on higher MP.

Tell me what i need to upgrade more i got like 20 mil.

Here is my profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Smoke-2734/hero/798510

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Nov 22 2012 03:44pm
Is it possible to permafreeze with 2.7 unbuffed APS 50 crit chance and only 2 APOC?
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Nov 22 2012 05:51pm
Quote (Gravydip @ 22 Nov 2012 00:00)
Question about cm wizards

do you need 2.73 aps for perma freeze or is 2.72 good enough?



the breakpoint is 2,7378 aka 2,74, not 2,73! this is a difference of 3 ticks...

Quote (Ericjdevr @ 22 Nov 2012 22:44)
Is it possible to permafreeze with 2.7 unbuffed APS 50 crit chance and only 2 APOC?


2 apoc wont even get you to freeze anything since your arc is empty after casting tornados

This post was edited by Mesmerise on Nov 22 2012 05:52pm
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Vulpix-1567/hero/2084917

Looking for some advice here. Would I be screwed at MP8 ubers if I give up my Pox? I want to get a decent trifecta ring and replace my Pox. If I do that though, I lose like 124 all resist, and my all resist would be like 600+ instead of 700+. Is that a bad idea?
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