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Nov 11 2012 11:23am
Quote (OHMSS @ Nov 10 2012 11:40pm)
And you should learn to read the posts in question before you throw your brainless flames on them you cretinism plagued waste-product.


Quote (GladdX @ Nov 11 2012 05:29am)
hahaha what a loser. He was talking about a rare item and not ur fuking mempo,

#1 fail ever made, congratz little kid.


holy sheet how clueless are you???????

a random helm could never roll these mods, this is a legendary item with preset rolls you are unbelievably confused, the probability of a rare item that has zero chance to roll similar mods has literally nothing to do with how a preset mod rolled legendary rolls

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Nov 11 2012 11:26am
not to mention the silly in questions math was unbelievably flawed

the mods are preset, there are 26 mods that can roll on a helm, and there is only 1 property on this legendary that gets the math for 1-26 rolls, rest of rolls are preset and only require a small range

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Nov 11 2012 11:54am
Quote (bensaysthx @ Nov 11 2012 11:26am)
not to mention the silly in questions math was unbelievably flawed

the mods are preset, there are 26 mods that can roll on a helm, and there is only 1 property on this legendary that gets the math for 1-26 rolls, rest of rolls are preset and only require a small range


There are actually 113 affixes that can roll in that open spot, but yeah you have the right idea. Only 1 spot has to roll those 113, and 5 of the affixes out of those 113 are crit. Only one of the 113 is the 5-6% crit chance though, then it has to roll 1 in 3 for perfect 6%. 1 in 339 on that random spot to get perfect crit.

Then the presets.

I think he was trying to show that a rare helm rolling as perfect as it can (still inferior to a perfect mempo) would be much rarer...which is true. It is so rare, that it will never happen. But, the math he did was all completely wrong, and completely pointless when a Mempo is far superior, and rolls perfect much easier.

1 in 639,540 for a perfect Mempo of any stat, or 1 in 1,891,620 for a specific main stat.
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Nov 11 2012 12:18pm
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There are actually 113 affixes that can roll in that open spot, but yeah you have the right idea.  Only 1 spot has to roll those 113, and 5 of the affixes out of those 113 are crit.  Only one of the 113 is the 5-6% crit chance though, then it has to roll 1 in 3 for perfect 6%.  1 in 339 on that random spot to get perfect crit.

Then the presets.

I think he was trying to show that a rare helm rolling as perfect as it can (still inferior to a perfect mempo) would be much rarer...which is true.  It is so rare, that it will never happen.  But, the math he did was all completely wrong, and completely pointless when a Mempo is far superior, and rolls perfect much easier. 

1 in 639,540 for a perfect Mempo of any stat, or 1 in 1,891,620 for a specific main stat.


not sure were the 113 comes from

is that calculating it can not roll double socket, which it has socket preset, or the preset life or preset all res? also no class spacific

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Nov 11 2012 12:29pm
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not sure were the 113 comes from

is that calculating it can not roll double socket, which it has socket preset, or the preset life or preset all res? also no class spacific



That was from me going through the AH by hand, checking the min \ max on every single affix, then comparing it to a list of affixes to see which ones had to be included. It may actually be more than 113 affixes, because some have overlap on the low end that I could not rule out, and if a roll could possibly fall into a higher range and not require the lower affix, then I did not include the lower.

Edit:

To clarify, I typed "Mempo of Twilight" then started with Arcane resist and worked my way through. I omitted any affix that was built into it by default.

And, if it is more than 113, it is not much more. Maybe 115 or 116. Most were very clear.

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Nov 11 2012 12:40pm
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That was from me going through the AH by hand, checking the min \ max on every single affix, then comparing it to a list of affixes to see which ones had to be included.  It may actually be more than 113 affixes, because some have overlap on the low end that I could not rule out, and if a roll could possibly fall into a higher range and not require the lower affix, then I did not include the lower.

Edit:

To clarify, I typed "Mempo of Twilight" then started with Arcane resist and worked my way through.  I omitted any affix that was built into it by default.

And, if it is more than 113, it is not much more.  Maybe 115 or 116.  Most were very clear.


i still dont see how you get that many

there are the stats, the elemental resists, a couple adventuring, only cc for offensive, couple defensive, and only a few procs, seems to be much lower then that
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Nov 11 2012 12:46pm
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Nov 11 2012 12:57pm
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i still dont see how you get that many

there are the stats, the elemental resists, a couple adventuring, only cc for offensive, couple defensive, and only a few procs, seems to be much lower then that



Go through and count them. Each stat is not one single affix, and many have quite a few different affixes they can roll.

Crit is the example I use the most, as it is the best roll for a Mempo. Mempo can roll 3-6% CC, but it is not all from one affix. There are 5 CC affixes it can roll. If it was 1 affix, then 1 in 7 helms with CC would be 6%, but that is not the case. Actually only 1 in 15 helms with CC will roll 6%.

I just did a quick count and there are 24 different affix categories that it can roll (arcane res, str\vit, dex\int, health globes, etc). Most of these actually contain 4+ affixes inside of them, with some as many as 7 or so if I remember correctly (that can roll on a Mempo).



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