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Nov 16 2012 08:37am
yep can almost farm MP10 already on barb ... just couldn't finish asmo in time (he had like 1cm life left ... but he killed me TT)

but MP10 is too slow in my PoV ... just saying ...

@Yashi was main wizz on D2 in good old days and in beta didn't feel power at all from wizz which scared me like hell ... had a good feeling with barb btw so i joined that side :P
yeah aspd is attack speed ;) i had a critical mass build in mind (like close to all wizz actually no ? ;) )
and so aspd fasten the tornado (exemple) or some other skill too ? or just the skill animation ?

@Yazuki kinda confused when you say it's the same concept ... on barb aspd mean auto attack faster, your WW rotation is faster, and tornado too ... so i can see the point on barb.
don't really understand your "break the point with aspd" on Wiz sorry :-/ a little bit explanation please ?

ty in advance :)
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Nov 16 2012 08:41am
what passive do archon build use?
CM doesnt work for archon teleport right?
so glass canon / ward / and ?
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Nov 16 2012 08:44am
Quote (jtrac07 @ Nov 16 2012 09:41am)
what passive do archon build use?
CM doesnt work for archon teleport right?
so glass canon / ward / and ?


Don't use glass cannon if you have enough dps
Evocation and crit mass with either blur or galv ward is what I use
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Nov 16 2012 01:25pm
Quote (jtrac07 @ Nov 16 2012 02:41pm)
what passive do archon build use?
CM doesnt work for archon teleport right?
so glass canon / ward / and ?


u could use glass, but the point of archon wizard is to power level so if its too hard just lower the mp
evocation, crit mass, galv is my setup.
storm armor
and archon teleport. should be doing an average alkaizer run in 13-15 mins if doing it right. if ur faster then thats better. teleport and cm doesnt work for archon.

Quote (Khepesh @ Nov 16 2012 02:37pm)
yep can almost farm MP10 already on barb ... just couldn't finish asmo in time (he had like 1cm life left ... but he killed me TT)

but MP10 is too slow in my PoV ... just saying ...

@Yashi was main wizz on D2 in good old days and in beta didn't feel power at all from wizz which scared me like hell ... had a good feeling with barb btw so i joined that side :P
yeah aspd is attack speed ;) i had a critical mass build in mind (like close to all  wizz actually no ? ;) )
and so aspd fasten the tornado (exemple) or some other skill too ? or just the skill animation ?

@Yazuki kinda confused when you say it's the same concept ... on barb aspd mean auto attack faster, your WW rotation is faster, and tornado too ... so i can see the point on barb.
don't really understand your "break the point with aspd" on Wiz sorry :-/ a little bit explanation please ?

ty in advance :)


the skill animation of ur atk speed is increased with attackspeed
also
the base damage of ur skills also goes up with attackspeed with ur spells ex:
0 atk speed - dmg tick 10-20
20 atk speed - dmg tick 15-25
40 atk speed - dmg tick 20-30 etc etc (not real numbers btw)

there isnt really a breakpoint for wizards, unless ur only looking for atk per sec, which is like around 2.5 ish
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Nov 16 2012 03:32pm
Ty for completing the answer ;-)
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Nov 16 2012 03:52pm
Quote (Yazuki @ Nov 16 2012 06:44am)
Don't use glass cannon if you have enough dps
Evocation and crit mass with either blur or galv ward is what I use


whats the point of cm if it doesnt work in archon?
i rarely use the first skill
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Nov 16 2012 03:58pm
Quote (jtrac07 @ Nov 16 2012 04:52pm)
whats the point of cm if it doesnt work in archon?
i rarely use the first skill


To get it back when it goes down?
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Nov 16 2012 08:01pm
Quote (Yazuki @ Nov 16 2012 02:58pm)
To get it back when it goes down?


this
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Nov 16 2012 09:01pm
Quote (Khepesh @ Nov 16 2012 02:34pm)
look like i'll interupt you guys ...

i'm actually a ww barbarian and use it to farm so far ...

really wishing to switch on a wiz but ... i'm kinda scared by the farming ability of wizz, should i keep my barb for farming purpose or switch for perma wizzy ?

Question N°2

even if i know how aspd work for barbarian and how they affect them, i'm kinda noob with wizz ... i mean a real one :-P

even if it make your DPS higher (autoattack...) does it affect your REAL damage when you spam your skill ?
animation is faster ? (better spam?)  CD is reduced ? or something else that i missed ? or totally useless exept for show and don't affect your REAL DPS (not the fancy number on your character page)

if someone could answer this ... i'd be happy ! :P


Right now wizard is the most nerfed gold consuming difficult to gear class. Barbs on the other side rule sanctuary. Why would you ever wanna switch to wizzard? To make a good perma freezing wizz you need shit ton of gold and in the end barbs are better farmers anyway. I suggest you should wait before pvp and see what class to chose beside barb.
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Nov 18 2012 01:47am
i have a huge concern with unbuffed effective hp, i have 150k unbuffed effective hp with 210k unbuffed dps
of course i am not able to c'lear mp4 without dying to reflect dmg at least once. my question is, how much res + armor (fully buffed) should i have to withstand mp5+ for reflect dmg? i use a 3% lifesteal 1h and it just holds its own (if nobody attacks me)
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