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Jun 21 2012 11:49am
Quote (irimi @ Jun 21 2012 01:38pm)
Is anyone actually still farming A3/A4?  With the nerfed drop quality in A3/A4 and repair bills, it seems like a huge waste of time to me.

I'm just leveling alts until Blizzard gets their act together.  And if they don't, well, I guess I'm done with this game much sooner than I'd planned.


Same I'm making a wiz tonight once I get off work and a second monk cause female looks hotter
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Jun 21 2012 11:55am
Quote (Valefar @ Jun 21 2012 05:15pm)
I need help for a gear upgrade here. I have 500k. Also wondering if I should keep the shield or not, because I think the extra 90+ res really helps (the more tricky elite mobs kick my arse as it is), but ideally I'd change to dual wield and Guardian's Path if I had good res on other items.

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Hmm, where to begin...

1) Make sure every item you have has the following:

Dex
Vit
Single res
All res
+ armor

If you're on a budget, obviously the stats won't be super high, but it doesn't cost much at all to get those 5 stats on every piece you have

* Obviously if it's rings and amulet, you can't afford those stats. So for those, you just buy cheap Dex / as / third stat

2) Ditch the spear, and buy a monk fist. It's faster base speed will help a lot. You can get some pretty nice blue ones for fairly cheap. Just make sure it has a socket, because you'll need the Amethyst in it for LOH. The one that gives 190 isn't expensive. If you can afford it, get a Star for the 300 LOH

3) Stop using hundred fists and start using Deadly reach + keen eye rune. I have no clue why anybody uses anything else. Thunderclap teleports you right on top of people, basically making you stand in all the desecrator fire, poison pools, and molten trails. It's such a bad skill late game.

With deadly reach, you can shift attack from a couple feet away and not get hit at all. Plus the keen eye rune adds like 35% armor, which is HUGE !!!

4) Use "resolve" as your third passive, it really helps vs single enemies.

5) Never buy a shield that doesn't have high block rate on it. I got my shield for 50k on the auction house. 75 dex, 75 vit, 40 all res, and 27% Block. You can get another 10% block easily without spending any more money.

6) Use Earth Ally. It gives a nice boost to life, but the best part is, he's an awesome meat shield. Way better then your enchantress is. You can summon him directly in enemies path, and they always stop to attack him first until he's dead. In places with tight spaces, you put earth ally between you and the enemies, and you shift attack from a few feet away and you don't take a single hit.


That should help a bit, and I don't think it'll cost you very much.
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Jun 21 2012 12:03pm
Quote (xu-godx @ 21 Jun 2012 12:55)
I have no clue why anybody uses anything else. Thunderclap teleports you right on top of people, basically making you stand in all the desecrator fire, poison pools, and molten trails.  It's such a bad skill late game.


Faster attack, higher LoH multiplier, knockback, faster spirit generation, teleport allows you to kill mobs that run away like succubi or goblins.

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Jun 21 2012 12:10pm
The game is all about elite mobs, nothing else is a problem right? So how many elite mobs have you seen in Act 3 and 4 that don't have at least one of the following: Desecrator, poison, or molten? If you use thunderclap vs any of those, you are constantly standing where you do not want to be standing. I agree that at first glance, deadly reach doesn't seem that great. But having the ability to shift attack while standing still, from so far away, makes all the difference in the world. I went from having a hard time getting through Act 2, to blazing through the game until I had some troubles with Izual. Deadly reach was the reason.

Downside to deadly reach as you already mentioned, you can't kill goblins. But are we talking about getting through the game, or goblin hunting? Obviously you can switch if you are just farming something. But for actual progression, Deadly reach + keen Eye is bar none the best skill IMO

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Jun 21 2012 12:17pm
Quote (xu-godx @ Jun 21 2012 11:10am)
The game is all about elite mobs, nothing else is a problem right?  So how many elite mobs have you seen in Act 3 and 4 that don't have at least one of the following:  Desecrator, poison, or molten?  If you use thunderclap vs any of those, you are constantly standing where you do not want to be standing.  I agree that at first glance, deadly reach doesn't seem that great.  But having the ability to shift attack while standing still, from so far away, makes all the difference in the world.  I went from having a hard time getting through Act 2, to blazing through the game until I had some troubles with Izual.  Deadly reach was the reason. 

Downside to deadly reach as you already mentioned, you can't kill goblins.  But are we talking about getting through the game, or goblin hunting?  Obviously you can switch if you are just farming something.  But for actual progression, Deadly reach + keen Eye is bar none the best skill IMO


I beat the game before Inferno was nerfed to shit, and Deadly Reach was useful mostly in Act 3. Switching to FoT+Thunderclap was what got me through Act 2, and I used it to progress through Act 4 in a single night.

Also, when I did use Deadly Reach, it was with Foresight. :)

This post was edited by irimi on Jun 21 2012 12:18pm
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Jun 21 2012 12:26pm
Quote (xu-godx @ Jun 21 2012 02:10pm)
The game is all about elite mobs, nothing else is a problem right?  So how many elite mobs have you seen in Act 3 and 4 that don't have at least one of the following:  Desecrator, poison, or molten?  If you use thunderclap vs any of those, you are constantly standing where you do not want to be standing.  I agree that at first glance, deadly reach doesn't seem that great.  But having the ability to shift attack while standing still, from so far away, makes all the difference in the world.  I went from having a hard time getting through Act 2, to blazing through the game until I had some troubles with Izual.  Deadly reach was the reason. 

Downside to deadly reach as you already mentioned, you can't kill goblins.  But are we talking about getting through the game, or goblin hunting?  Obviously you can switch if you are just farming something.  But for actual progression, Deadly reach + keen Eye is bar none the best skill IMO


I find kiting with thunderclap a lot better Keen eye is only better in the depths in act III
Molten? Np
Horde? Np
Frozen? Use thunderclap to move
desecrate? Switch to a different elite
Fire chain? Tank that shit cause it can be dodged as well
Arcane? Switch to a different elite til the one you're aiming at follows you

If you don't know how to use thunderclap don't throw it off

I got to izual the day before nerf day came cause of irini's tips
I used to use Keen eye I rarely use it now

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Jun 21 2012 12:43pm
Quote (xu-godx @ 21 Jun 2012 19:10)
The game is all about elite mobs, nothing else is a problem right?  So how many elite mobs have you seen in Act 3 and 4 that don't have at least one of the following:  Desecrator, poison, or molten?  If you use thunderclap vs any of those, you are constantly standing where you do not want to be standing.  I agree that at first glance, deadly reach doesn't seem that great.  But having the ability to shift attack while standing still, from so far away, makes all the difference in the world.  I went from having a hard time getting through Act 2, to blazing through the game until I had some troubles with Izual.  Deadly reach was the reason. 

Downside to deadly reach as you already mentioned, you can't kill goblins.  But are we talking about getting through the game, or goblin hunting?  Obviously you can switch if you are just farming something.  But for actual progression, Deadly reach + keen Eye is bar none the best skill IMO


Deadly reach is great and all but it's just so damn slow, especially now after nerf. I can't kill anything because it's too slow to generate health with life on hit (~1200 here).
FoT has the implicit 25% ias, and you don't have to use thunderclap - use the one with %dodge chance. With build not focused on any dodge i get up to 70% when spamming mantra and I believe it helps.
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Jun 21 2012 12:51pm
Quote (irimi @ Jun 21 2012 09:38am)
Is anyone actually still farming A3/A4?  With the nerfed drop quality in A3/A4 and repair bills, it seems like a huge waste of time to me.

I'm just leveling alts until Blizzard gets their act together.  And if they don't, well, I guess I'm done with this game much sooner than I'd planned.


ditto, Wiz just in Inferno, already done with act1.
Leveling up a DH now. lol
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Jun 21 2012 12:56pm
Quote (xu-godx @ Jun 21 2012 09:55am)
3)  Stop using hundred fists and start using Deadly reach + keen eye rune.  I have no clue why anybody uses anything else.  Thunderclap teleports you right on top of people, basically making you stand in all the desecrator fire, poison pools, and molten trails.  It's such a bad skill late game.

With deadly reach, you can shift attack from a couple feet away and not get hit at all.  Plus the keen eye rune adds like 35% armor, which is HUGE !!!
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Quote (orangetomato @ Jun 21 2012 10:03am)
Faster attack, higher LoH multiplier, knockback, faster spirit generation, teleport allows you to kill mobs that run away like succubi or goblins.


That, and some of use BOTH Deadly Reach/Keen Eye... AND FoL/Thunderclap. Combining both to adapt to any situation is awesome. (double tap FoL, 3rd tap use Deadly Reach to procc Keen Eye, faster armor buff... need to maintain range? Shift + Deadly, want to maximize AoE dmg? double tap Deadly Reach, 3rd tap FoL... perfect combo... etc etc) I find comboing them much more valuable than Earth Ally, frankly my earth ally dies WAYYY to fast.
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Jun 21 2012 01:00pm
Quote (Batou079 @ Jun 21 2012 02:56pm)
That, and some of use BOTH Deadly Reach/Keen Eye... AND FoL/Thunderclap.  Combining both to adapt to any situation is awesome.  (double tap FoL, 3rd tap use Deadly Reach to procc Keen Eye, faster armor buff... need to maintain range?  Shift + Deadly, want to maximize AoE dmg?  double tap Deadly Reach, 3rd tap FoL... perfect combo... etc etc)  I find comboing them much more valuable than Earth Ally, frankly my earth ally dies WAYYY to fast.


Been trying to find something to replace ally with cause the 10% life is now unnecessary so was using sweeping wind blade storm cause I don't want to lose my blindin flash
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