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Jul 4 2012 09:37am
Quote (Skateofc2 @ Jul 4 2012 08:12am)
what is best for a dh?

bow or xbow? (both got same dps)

and why?

Character screen dps - xbow

Playing? Depends on whether you can settle for the shit speeds that crossbows provide in a post ias nerf world.
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Jul 4 2012 09:46am
Quote (Onslaughtx @ 4 Jul 2012 17:37)
Character screen dps - xbow

Playing? Depends on whether you can settle for the shit speeds that crossbows provide in a post ias nerf world.


do i lose much dps by using a bow instead of xbow? :O
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Jul 4 2012 09:53am
Quote (Skateofc2 @ Jul 4 2012 08:46am)
do i lose much dps by using a bow instead of xbow? :O

There are plenty of people pushing 170k dps with a 1050 dps bow right now. A comparable xbow would provide maybe... 5-10k more dps, but really at that point it doesn't matter. It also makes you better as 1.4 is a much more comfortable base speed to kite with (not to mention you'll probably get to like 1.9-2.0/s anyways.

It largely comes down to preference, as I said. If you can kite with a crossbow (ie if you have the ias to boost it to a reasonable level) then by all means, go that route. I personally feel more comfortable kiting with a bow or hand crossbows (though I typically tank when using hand crossbows).
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Jul 4 2012 10:02am
Quote (Onslaughtx @ 4 Jul 2012 17:53)
There are plenty of people pushing 170k dps with a 1050 dps bow right now. A comparable xbow would provide maybe... 5-10k more dps, but really at that point it doesn't matter. It also makes you better as 1.4 is a much more comfortable base speed to kite with (not to mention you'll probably get to like 1.9-2.0/s anyways.

It largely comes down to preference, as I said. If you can kite with a crossbow (ie if you have the ias to boost it to a reasonable level) then by all means, go that route. I personally feel more comfortable kiting with a bow or hand crossbows (though I typically tank when using hand crossbows).


:O okey, so the kiting is much easier with a bow due to the base attackspeed it got? :)
so if im a person who likes to solo sometimes and fight in a team with a tank sometimes would it be better for me to go with a bow then? :)
as ive read this guide it tells that i want to reach atleast 1,7 aps witch i belive is easier to do with a bow rather then xbow?
but as the xbow got more of an "compact" damage lets say 700-1100 and a bow got 350-1100 would that affect my damage alot? like if i wont hit very high with a bow 50% of the times cuz of that?

thanks for the answers btw!

This post was edited by Skateofc2 on Jul 4 2012 10:03am
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Jul 4 2012 10:10am
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:O okey, so the kiting is much easier with a bow due to the base attackspeed it got? :)
so if im a person who likes to solo sometimes and fight in a team with a tank sometimes would it be better for me to go with a bow then? :)
as ive read this guide it tells that i want to reach atleast 1,7 aps witch i belive is easier to do with a bow rather then xbow?
but as the xbow got more of an "compact" damage lets say 700-1100 and a bow got 350-1100 would that affect my damage alot? like if i wont hit very high with a bow 50% of the times cuz of that?

thanks for the answers btw!


i prefer bow

xbow too slow for me

also faster attack speed = faster heal with gloom

1hand xbow and bow better for ball lightning spam builds with gloom
xbow is better for 1 shot kites and cluster arrow and spike trap (aka nuke builds)

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 4 2012 10:13am
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Jul 4 2012 10:11am
kiting is kiting at any speed. the recovery from faster weapons isn't too groundbreaking. I use a crossbow + quiver with almost no other ias gear (other than nats, gloves) and am doing fine.

edit: the animation of 1h crossbows are pretty amazing though. Ultimately, I plan to switch to 2x 1h crossbows if I can afford to invest 100mil to each bow.

This post was edited by manduki on Jul 4 2012 10:12am
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Jul 4 2012 10:14am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 4 Jul 2012 18:10)
i prefer bow

xbow too slow for me

also faster attack speed = faster heal with gloom


okey thanks! :)
i know your the pro in here and onslaughtx i bet your one of the too i want to thanks both of you for the answer! :)
i will be looking for a decent bow for my dh then :)

also if you know, are it worth buying a bow with cold damage and cuz of that loose some dps? or should i just go for a good bow with dps and as much crit damage as possible? and is life leech a good add or should i screw that one too? ^^

@manduki
oh :O
you guys got pretty splitt up opinions about the attack speed but i think i will stick to a bow since i like kiting with a nice amount of attackspeed :)


This post was edited by Skateofc2 on Jul 4 2012 10:16am
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Quote (Skateofc2 @ Jul 4 2012 12:14pm)
okey thanks! :)
i know your the pro in here and onslaughtx i bet your one of the too i want to thanks both of you for the answer! :)
i will be looking for a decent bow for my dh then :)

also if you know, are it worth buying a bow with cold damage and cuz of that loose some dps? or should i just go for a good bow with dps and as much crit damage as possible? and is life leech a good add or should i screw that one too? ^^

@manduki
oh :O
you guys got pretty splitt up opinions about the attack speed but i think i will stick to a bow since i like kiting with a nice amount of attackspeed :)


the more damage you do, the less u need to kite. so at the moment, raw damage > cold

get one with base crit and socket for a gem if u can.

life on hit is your best friend if u can get it
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Jul 4 2012 03:08pm
Is It worth sacrificing ~230 dex for 7 crit chance?
Im thinking of natalyas cloak+boots for the 7crit chance
Or should i just go for a cloack with mass stats+boots with mass stats? :)

Any opinions in this one?
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Jul 4 2012 03:32pm
what are the best skills for dh right now?? I wanna get though a2 then hopefully a3.
63k dps with sharpshooter
and shall i use 2h xbow or bow? i dont have the 1h crossbow

This post was edited by shodek on Jul 4 2012 03:38pm
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