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Nov 29 2012 04:56pm
Quote (UTMB @ Nov 29 2012 11:23am)
5 piece ik set worth the bonus?


UTMB... I love the set bonus on my profile is a link to my gear.... but, it WILL HOLD YOU Back from max dps

when you shout/war cry you gain 20 fury and sprint cost 20 fury....

but without 5 set bonus you immediately lose 1 fury after shout and cannot sprint since 1.05 was added.

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Quote (Randz66 @ Nov 29 2012 09:00pm)
after reading this post what is a better/more effective main hand?



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slaughter wedge

massacre gash 637-1148 x 3 x 20 x 1.15 x 0.2 = 8790 - 15842 crits 12316 average

slaughter wedge 445-988 x 3.74 x 20.23 x 1.15 x 0.2 = 7743 - 17193 crits 12468 average and 145 vit >>>> (74 crit and 23 str difference I took it into account, taking random nrs for cd and str but doesnt matter nn be precise since everything except weapon is fixed)

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 29 2012 05:27pm
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Quote (Randz66 @ Nov 29 2012 08:12pm)
I am not sure i completely understand the whole aps figures, but I am trying to find gear that increases it...

I am posting a pic here and I thought that the fire (random elemental damage) on a SOJ had to be in conjunction with a skill of similar elemental damage, but after reading this post it sounds as if you dont have to do COLD damage to get the 5% increase in cold damage...

and apparently Frenzy is possible.  My jsp profile has a link to my toon, but I suppose If i ever found an item worth 200 mil I could afford more upgrades. 

My biggest issue is with reflect molten and not leeching enough, but it certainly seems 5.8 LS is enough for every other situation in game.

thanks to anyone who can help me improve my current toon/play style.

Would a COLD SOJ on follower stack with a cold SOJ on Barb?

Which follower is Best?

Scoundrel give me about 20% increase in damage when he crits... i have him maxed in CC.
Enchantress gives APS??? will that increase damage or ticks to nados?




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WW is not primary attack, nado is, you can get up to 6 crit on rings now for all attacks vs 7 crit to WW ... you choose. Getting SOJ just for crit to ww is not ideal.

SOJ are used for % elite dmg and cold dmg mostly

that % to lightning is actually % AS lightning, and is added to .... get this .... the physical part of weapon damage only, not any lightning / corresponding dmg you might have. Fucked up, unintuitive as hell ... thats Blizzard. Ideally, you get a cold one for the snare. The actual 5-6% dmg is not that amazing, and the element itself is not important at all (tho preferably a cold one), the dmg to elites is.

The 20-30% dmg to elites does not show on ur char screen dps but is a str8 forward addition to your dps, yes. Elites are champs, rares, minions, purples / act bosses

Bash instigation is best for pure fury gen, it has 12 per hit and 100% 15 fury when it crits since 1.0 proc. Even tops and outdoes the frenzy speed bonus. So you can get 1/4 of your fury back in a single bash.

Yes, on IK belt and SOJ ideally you get %dmg to your main generator (cleave / frenzy / bash), though some people like -hota cost (soj) or - throw cost (belt) if they would ever go hybrid or swap build completely for ubers etc

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Nov 29 2012 05:26pm
Quote (markilbaldacchino @ Nov 29 2012 04:14pm)
slaughter wedge


eh.. its a close call but I would go with the other higher raw dmg one

you have to think.. that base gets multiplied by all your str and all your crit dmg.. u want that base as high as possible
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Quote (Tboner @ Nov 30 2012 01:26am)
eh.. its a close call but I would go with the other higher raw dmg one

you have to think.. that base gets multiplied by all your str and all your crit dmg.. u want that base as high as possible



yeah I just did the calculation tho, and its 5075 HP also, trumps it for sure imo

and since theyre same speed no issue on that either

ppl gotta learn how to calc actual nado dmg its so easy and accurate, thsi is nado per actual hit:

xx-xx dmg x 0.2 x 1.15 x 1+str% x 1+cd%

thats it, nothing else to it, might add x elites dmg % if you got soj, or demons dmg if tyrael etc

And whirlwind is 0.483 instead of 0.2

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 29 2012 05:36pm
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thanks a ton for all info
and the pm
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thanks a ton for all info
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sure np
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Nov 30 2012 12:40pm
This is probably obvious but when you use frenzy, does the 75% IAS get added to your tornado breakpoints? I have been using bash the whole time... but that seems pretty insane if it works like that.
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Quote (Protatoe @ Nov 30 2012 08:40pm)
This is probably obvious but when you use frenzy, does the 75% IAS get added to your tornado breakpoints?  I have been using bash the whole time... but that seems pretty insane if it works like that.


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I have a question regarding hota damg.

The increased damg comes from main hand weapon only or total dps?
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