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Nov 19 2014 10:53am
Cold dmg neck.
Shoulders with dex/vit/cdr/sentry dmg.
Roll sentry on chest instead of life.
Roll cluster on boots instead of ms.
Witching Hour.
RoRG with cdr, cd or cc instead of all res.

Change sentry rune to spitfire and impale to ele arrow with frost. Cold spec > fire spec.

Lmk if u have more questions. Also Bracers should be slave bonds if u can find some!
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Nov 20 2014 02:05am
Gm mates,

Seems i cant drop the Etrayu bow but i have dropped a preety nice uskang (light dam)

Do you thing it is worth it to change into lightning sentry build ?
Anyone has done it?

Pls also post skills
Ty

This post was edited by ballin95 on Nov 20 2014 02:05am
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Nov 20 2014 08:29am
U can try this but the lightning build is rly only viable with a helltrapper and meticulous bolts Quiver.

The reason for this is that u need to be attacking very fast to make up for the damage lost from the cold spec. Additionally with custom engineering and the current helltrapper mechanic, u can have 5 sentries out. With that in mind, the goal is to aim for 4.154 aps (with TnT) ofc. Imo I'd stick to the frost fire cookie cutter build for now. If u can find an etrayu, a near perfect crafted 2h bow or 2h xbow would do the trick (assuming u don't have a different one that u found already).

If you are interested in trying the lightning spec, here it is:

Ele arrow - ball lightning
Companion
Sentry - polar station
Preparation - Punishment
Smoke screen - lingering for
Mark for Death - mortal enemy

Passives are:

Custom engineering
Cull of the weak
Awareness
Night stalker

Ofc u would u need the 5 piece mara bonus for this. Leg gems are gogok, enforcer and bane of trapped. Lmk if u have any more questions!

This post was edited by Bynd on Nov 20 2014 08:29am
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well i got myself pretty nice uskang too (20% light 10% dmg 715 dex so i can reroll base dmg) but this bow is useless right now

anyway, mara set will be nerfed http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/blog/16802653?utm_content=external-sso&utm_medium=other&utm_source=App#classitems so enjoy the last days of your char
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Quote (M0f0 @ Nov 20 2014 03:12pm)
well i got myself pretty nice uskang too (20% light 10% dmg 715 dex so i can reroll base dmg) but this bow is useless right now

anyway, mara set will be nerfed http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/blog/16802653?utm_content=external-sso&utm_medium=other&utm_source=App#classitems so enjoy the last days of your char


Patch isn't going to drop for at least a month. 2.1.2 will be released when season 1 ends. They have said that they will give us 30 says formal notice before the end of the season. Still plenty of time to enjoy sentry spam
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damage lost from the cold spec.

Lightning can easily outdamage frostfire for medium/big mobs, even without MB quiver, as long as you trigger BotT.

If you enjoy lightning, go for something like 3 spender Impale:Ricochet/Ele: Ball/CA: Dazzling.
It's not just black and white, I still play strafe (& outfarm m6 builds) or grimsever.
Would uninstall the game right now if I could only play frostfire m6 or slowball.

Oh btw, fire is still king, based on pure damage.

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Lightning can easily outdamage frostfire for medium/big mobs, even without MB quiver, as long as you trigger BotT.

If you enjoy lightning, go for something like 3 spender Impale:Ricochet/Ele: Ball/CA: Dazzling.
It's not just black and white, I still play strafe (& outfarm m6 builds) or grimsever.
Would uninstall the game right now if I could only play frostfire m6 or slowball.

Oh btw, fire is still king, based on pure damage.


I agree that there are a ton of fun builds to farm t6 with and that almost all the m6 variations are viable due to polar station (to proc BotT and CotW) The problem is that you have to have some pretty Bis gear to justify dropping Ballistics and rocket damage. For t6 experimenting it's fun but I'd say the vast majority of players aim to get as high on GR as possible. Unfortunately dps/survivability wise, frostfire takes the cake here, unless u have the slowball gear.

I've tried other variations myself and don't get me wrong, it's a lot of fun to switch it up from time to time. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a build that beats the frostfire and this is due to the rocket dmg. Yes, pure fire is best due to the abundance of fire gear (Cindercoat, Magefist etc) but the problem is that TnT are just too good. Again, ud have to have some pretty bis gear to justify dropping them for Magefist or to use a Cindercoat.

Not trying to prove u wrong in any way, just giving my opinion on the build diversity for the majority of DH's. I make the assumption that most players don't have the right gear to justify those fun builds if they are interested in moving above GR 30 efficiently. And as sad as it is, frostfire is extremely easy to set up and get moving into t6 and above

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Quote (Bynd @ 21 Nov 2014 15:18)
The problem is that you have to have some pretty Bis gear to justify dropping Ballistics and rocket damage.

No, you don't.
Quote (Bynd @ 21 Nov 2014 15:18)
For t6 experimenting it's fun but I'd say the vast majority of players aim to get as high on GR as possible.
Unfortunately dps/survivability wise, frostfire takes the cake here, unless u have the slowball gear.

Solo, frostfire is simply easier because of the sentry placement. Not necessarily better.
Party, pure fire or lightning > frostfire
Quote (Bynd @ 21 Nov 2014 15:18)
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a build that beats the frostfire and this is due to the rocket dmg.
Yes, pure fire is best due to the abundance of fire gear (Cindercoat, Magefist etc) but the problem is that TnT are just too good.
Again, ud have to have some pretty bis gear to justify dropping them for Magefist or to use a Cindercoat.

I'm not even taking those items into account. Pure damage based on skills, stuff you hit.
There's a reason 1slowball and 1 fire (helltrapper+bombadier or 2.84 2h xbow) is so popular.
Fire was and still is the #1.

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No, you don't.

Solo, frostfire is simply easier because of the sentry placement. Not necessarily better.
Party, pure fire or lightning > frostfire

I'm not even taking those items into account. Pure damage based on skills, stuff you hit.
There's a reason 1slowball and 1 fire (helltrapper+bombadier or 2.84 2h xbow) is so popular.
Fire was and still is the #1.


Well the way I see it, u can't look at builds simply on skills (stuff you hit). The way gear drops these days, specs depend on a balance of gear and skill choice. Of course if u had every piece of gear, you could use any build but for the majority of players, that isn't a reality.

That is what I was saying above, it is much easier to gear for the frostfire spec as it doesn't take as many specific drops/specific rolls. Anyone with m6 can run frostfire with mediocre rolls. I can't say the same for other elements. Btw, all of my ranting is purely based on solo play. Ofc playing in a group gives you infinitely more options as you don't need to worry as much about crowd control
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Nov 22 2014 05:08am
dont know how I feel about the new turret.

even with custom engi
hmm


lmao just finished reading patch notes

so m6 is basically done.


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