they arent bad stats, they just arent the best possible stats on rings / ammy's

Now here is something that i CAN relate with. They indeed do not have great passives (a thing monks suffer from too, even at HLD).
Everything you just said is how I view wizards.

@ Kommandant and Ironside
Maybe everyone on your realm sucks with wizards because they got owned and gave up on it too fast. Wiz is the char I play the most and I know it really well.
If you think having to put in extra work learning a class before you can get some kills in puts in on the bottom of the food chain than sure, it's bad. It's the baddest class evar!

nah I'd rather play my WD any day.

Btw, can we all agree that Monks are the weakest class atm? If so, how come we removed like one of their better spells? I mean, we wanted shorter duels, but they already are kinda short

Well I don't think we can cuz most here think Wizards are.

What I also don't get is why BoH got banned when the heal on serenity is actually bigger than BoH. Also there is no room for both on a good skillbuild imo and serenity is the better choice.

afaik last i heard just one of the heals was banned. just like one of the WD's cc's is banned. doesnt matter which just could only use one

Oh..well that makes more sense..

it's too late to say don't quote me on that

but thats the last thing i remember being talked about so idk for sure

Anyone up for some duels now? :]

is ptr up?