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Jun 18 2012 11:34am
Quote (ikusus @ Jun 18 2012 05:29pm)
watched your video
50% of the time you're running away for cooldowns praying nothing hits you
40% you're just lucky you're not receiving a fatal blow, because you're already below 20% life
10% you're dealing your OH AWESOME damage


whatever dude...i give up. So many mad kids on jsp, its too much for me. GG
My video is 5mins 53 seconds. does that mean I killed diablo by hitting him for only 35.3 seconds? Gee I didn't know I was THAT strong

This post was edited by fooljw87 on Jun 18 2012 11:39am
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Jun 18 2012 11:41am
Quote (fooljw87 @ Jun 18 2012 01:26pm)
Beat the purpose of WHAT? lol being technical? yea


Yeah lol

Quote (fooljw87 @ Jun 18 2012 01:34pm)
whatever dude...i give up. So many mad kids on jsp, its too much for me. GG
My video is 5mins 53 seconds. does that mean I killed diablo by hitting him for only 35.3 seconds? Gee I didn't know I was THAT strong


I don't think it's a bad build it's just different has its upside and it's downside
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Jun 18 2012 11:41am
Quote (ikusus @ Jun 18 2012 12:29pm)
watched your video
50% of the time you're running away for cooldowns praying nothing hits you
40% you're just lucky you're not receiving a fatal blow, because you're already below 20% life
10% you're dealing your OH AWESOME damage


He's done something that appears to be working. Its honestly not much different than me dual wielding in A2, although, he has much more crit than I've ever thought about, in addition to a shield. I still want to dual wield, so I'll be looking into more crit. Starting out it might not be as much as he has, but I will be investigating.

Already re-spec'ed with backlash and cyclone strike. Love it. The dodge I get from just popping that and my mantra is like night and day compared to what I was getting. And it increased my survivability in A2 by a large amount.

Now the big thing is damage for me.
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Jun 18 2012 11:56am
This guy finds a build that actually works and gets shit on. Fun fun!
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Jun 18 2012 12:00pm
Quote (Shirl86 @ Jun 18 2012 12:13am)
looks like kinda from -50% to -70% nerf... amazing...


Wow, this is ridiculous... Blizzard is gonna see lots of rage from every class... not to mention how much harder it is gonna be to survive with lack of LoH heals, the huge disparity of attack speed usefulness.
(70% reduction, means stacking ias becomes ALMOST pointless... in many cases the cost of said items will sky rocket so a typical player is even WORSE off in this crap economy.)

In my mind, this will make Melee classes even HARDER to play, making the disparity between ranged/melee classes that much more massive than it already is.
In their recent interview, they say changes are coming to help melee a little bit... if you read about them, its a giant joke of a "help". My monk was challenging but gear stacking helped me enjoy it still.
Now? I think ill start gearing my Wiz/DH to the gills... only about 10mil spent on my monk, but i may as well start selling him off... *shrug*
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Jun 18 2012 12:16pm
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This guy finds a build that actually works and gets shit on. Fun fun!


He finds a build that works - it's great, and people are applauding that.

He gets shit on because he claims it's the best thing since sliced bread and is far superior to any other player's build out there - a notion which is patently false and deserves to get plenty shit on. There's also quite a bit of intellectual dishonesty on his part: posting screenshots and highlighting stats with 2 active 3-second buffs up at the same time (and I didn't even notice the Frenzy Shrine til it was pointed out), and not acknowledging the weaknesses of his build compared to a different one.

That said, it's great to see a non-traditional build work. The whole bragging and shit talking other people about it isn't so convincing though.

This post was edited by irimi on Jun 18 2012 12:26pm
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Jun 18 2012 12:30pm
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He finds a build that works - it's great, and people are applauding that.

There's also quite a bit of intellectual dishonesty on his part: posting screenshots and highlighting stats with like, 5 active 3-second buffs up at the same time


I never said that they were unbuffed stats. My intention from showing more than 2/3 of my play screen was with the DIRECT INTENT to show you that I was in battle and with buffs that are CLEARLY VISIBLE on the screen. If I wanted to deceive anyone, I would have just posted my just the square portion of my screen containing my stats only. I don't think anyone is stupid enough to think that my natural dodge is 75.3%. No, that should not deceiving even to the stupidest person on JSP.
Also, please quote my saying that my build is "FAR SUPERIOR to ANY other player's build out there". You shouldn't make up shit like that.

This post was edited by fooljw87 on Jun 18 2012 12:56pm
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Jun 18 2012 12:35pm
Quote (Batou079 @ Jun 18 2012 01:00pm)
Wow, this is ridiculous... Blizzard is gonna see lots of rage from every class... not to mention how much harder it is gonna be to survive with lack of LoH heals, the huge disparity of attack speed usefulness.
(70% reduction, means stacking ias becomes ALMOST pointless... in many cases the cost of said items will sky rocket so a typical player is even WORSE off in this crap economy.)

In my mind, this will make Melee classes even HARDER to play, making the disparity between ranged/melee classes that much more massive than it already is.
In their recent interview, they say changes are coming to help melee a little bit... if you read about them, its a giant joke of a "help". My monk was challenging but gear stacking helped me enjoy it still.
Now? I think ill start gearing my Wiz/DH to the gills... only about 10mil spent on my monk, but i may as well start selling him off... *shrug*


Heres what I think.

Its pointless to argue why they're doing it. My concern is the impact. RMAH buyers who got attack speed have their items changed. They have bought something with their actual money that is now being manipulated. Obviously there will be rage there. This looks like an attempt by Blizzard to ensure that the prices for items remain high by nerfing what's commonly being used so players will find something else to stack that appears to work.

Here's what I'm predicting. This could be wrong.

Blizzard nerfs attack speed, lets say 70%. People start abandoning it. What do they do? I think they will begin to stack crit chance and damage. The price on those items will go up substantially.

Next, Blizzard will find something else "wrong" here and start to nerf crit chance / damage. Something else will take its place, and prices stay high.

If that's the case, and that's their plan, I'm hanging it up. I will not pay more for an item that I would for a monthly subscription to a MMO where I can progress at my leisure without the developers gouging me for more money. Also - MMOs tend to reward you for various quests with... ITEMS that help you progress!

And yes, I said developers. The players who make the prices are a symptom, not a cause. The mechanics of the game are the cause, and ultimately, Blizzard in general.



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Jun 18 2012 12:40pm
Quote (Veranor2 @ 18 Jun 2012 13:35)
Blizzard nerfs attack speed, lets say 70%.  People start abandoning it.  What do they do?  I think they will begin to stack crit chance and damage.  The price on those items will go up substantially.

Next, Blizzard will find something else "wrong" here and start to nerf crit chance / damage.  Something else will take its place, and prices stay high..


I don't think this is the intent. They just want to make IAS more on par with other stats. It will still be very strong and desirable, it just won't be worth a ridiculous amount. Just as armor and resists are equally important, so will be dexterity, IAS, and crit, for example.

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Jun 18 2012 12:42pm
Anyone tried a "Tempest Rush" Monk build?

lmk how you feel about this.
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