That is good to know for sure, thanks for the insight. And as your mass confusion/paranoia grants 20% more damage to them, that balances out with me sac'ing 4 dogs for an additional 20% damage plus the burst from sac itself. So we are kind of on the same page with that.

Both skill take same amount of time to cast, but acid cloud hits faster than bears.
If you want to do the stutter step cast, I think it is exact same dynamic with both skills, the difference is acid cloud hits larger area, and never misses anything.

If you need to wait for dot to kill enemies, then it means you have not enough damage for this build basically. Most of stuff should die to the nova, and rest quickly fall after to dot.
Sure it isnt like 100% kill per 1 cast, because if targets don't get crit and roll lowest possible damage, they may survive, but you spam this skill so it overlaps (due to huge range) and stuff dies quickly.
For sure you need much less casts per area to clear weak trash with it, than with bears.

Main deal with it is, if elite gets charmed, they don't cast any dots not cc, and usually they just stand still for 12 seconds, letting you dps them.
Unfortunately 12s is not much against 60m hp elite.

instant cast BUT u have to stand for 1 scond to cast. the reason i like the slight delay is because i can run at an angle cast and keep runing forward *video is uploading*

http://youtu.be/f8OucvSWydo

am i that much slower??? or do i just not play enough cause i get bored after 30min-1hr of paragon lol. or i think i'd be 80's at least.

testing out acid cloud atm it's decent but i'll have to time my run to see if it's efficient for my build since i have no mana regen and no loh.

How quickly does elite CC reduction fade? Does it start to fade as soon as the effect is applied or does it wait until after the effect is gone? 15 second cooldown on MC could be chained pretty hard. Even if it has diminishing returns, that could be a good way for a WD to help a group burn down elites more safely.

the acid cloud works ok. I just need to possibly swap out the damage on soul harvest with mana regen. also need to see if it's viable in group play prob not anything more then duo though.

This post was edited by supamanjon on Sep 28 2012 04:44pm

Damn, that is so fast. I really was hoping that Blizzard would straighten up and buff Darts but the last patch was yet again a disappointment in that regard...
It's a shame that they won't cater for those of us who hate ZBs.

does wd need some sort of LOH or life steal??

yea i have to test acid cloud. But i think imo wd build is just what works for you and whatever gear you roll around. I see top paragon 100 wd with only 80k dps etc. And almost every single build i looked at was different. None of them used totem though :| So i imght have to try out mass paranoia or something else. Pets dont' work 2 well when you one shot everything, they don't help vs rd much either.